Jackson (and Utah) mid-trip report

lal_truckee wrote:
Kurt Knisely wrote:


Wow, these guys are everywhere. I didn't think there were many left?
Where did
you ski w/ this 10th guy? We have one here in Kamas too.


Arn't they? Chatted with this guy here at Alpine Meadows, but he wasn't
a regular. We do have some regulars from the 10th, also. This guy was in
on the tail end; arrived at Hale from basic in Arkansas near the end of
the war, so he was about 18 in 1945; never saw action - he was merely
taught to ski on the govmint dime and released into the civilian
population. Not one of Minnie's boys at all.

Reminds me of sitting one stormy morning in the warming hut after a few
blizzard runs and listening to a couple of geezers compare dates and
times before deciding that the first guy, who had been a Luftwaff
fighter pilot, had tried to shoot down the guy who had been an American
bomber pilot, since the dates of engagements matched.


An interesting bit of trivia. You have all heard of Zero Mostel,
the actor, most probably. According to my former father-in-law,
he was a member of the 10th. How he got there, my f-i-l couldn't
explain, but said he was probably one of the laziest men he had
ever met. Would do anything to get out of activity of any sort.

BTW, my father in law never made it to Monte Casino. He broke his
back in a jeep accident at Camp Hale. Healed up pretty well, but
was discharged with no battle experience.

If you were in skiing in the 50's and 60's, almost everyone who
was anyone in skiing back then, was a 10th alumnus. I met quite
a few, but didn't keep track except for my wife's (first one)
family.

VtSkier

Sven Golly wrote:
VtSkier wrote in news:3a9jhqF66b9qaU1
@individual.net:


An interesting bit of trivia. You have all heard of Zero Mostel,
the actor, most probably. According to my former father-in-law,
he was a member of the 10th. How he got there, my f-i-l couldn't
explain, but said he was probably one of the laziest men he had
ever met. Would do anything to get out of activity of any sort.


Could be but then again...

http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/Lobby/4320/zbio.html


From your reference...
In 1943, he briefly served in the Army but was soon discharged.
Officially, it was due to an unspecified physical disability,
but it's likely he was dismissed because the Army was suspicious
of Mostel's left-leaning politics. This was a harbinger for things
to come.

My f-i-l only talked about Mostel at Camp Hale. And the part
about being lazy.

VtSkier wrote:

Are you home yet? If so, how was the trip? Noticed that the snow
was following you. Good for locals, but not good for you.

Yeah - had to leave town each time to allow the dumps an opportunity to
dump. More in new post.

VtSkier wrote:

An interesting bit of trivia. You have all heard of Zero Mostel,
the actor, most probably. According to my former father-in-law,
he was a member of the 10th. How he got there, my f-i-l couldn't
explain, but said he was probably one of the laziest men he had
ever met. Would do anything to get out of activity of any sort.

According to the IMDB, he was born in Brooklyn in 1915 and was
investigated by McCarthy et al. "Senator, do I LOOK like I have enough
energy to be a communist spy?" He died in 1977, which was a surprise.
I figured he was still alive.

BTW, my father in law never made it to Monte Casino. He broke his
back in a jeep accident at Camp Hale. Healed up pretty well, but
was discharged with no battle experience.

Amazing that a broken back could be a lucky accident.

--
Cheers,
Bev
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is like accusing someone who's shot a burglar in his home
of being a poor host." -- W.S.Rowell

"VtSkier" wrote in message
...
An interesting bit of trivia. You have all heard of Zero Mostel,
the actor, most probably. According to my former father-in-law,
he was a member of the 10th. How he got there, my f-i-l couldn't
explain, but said he was probably one of the laziest men he had
ever met. Would do anything to get out of activity of any sort.

Well, another famous person with ties to the 10th is James Earl Jones. I
got a chance to talk with him at the Breckenridge Festival of Film and he
told me that he was a cook at Camp Hale during WWII. I tried to verify
online and came up with one reference saying he completed Army Ranger cold
weather comando training at Camp Hale Colorado. Sounds like somebody was
embelishing his resume since I doubt that would have happened in the
segregated Army of the 40's.

snoig

Bob Lee wrote:
Armin wrote:

Bob Lee wrote:
You sometimes have to be extra-clear with the folk still using
training
bindings. Nice people, and they mean well, but their lips move
when
they read, if you know what I mean.

"Still using..." ??? more like "Using again..." !!!

Sorry Pinhead, but been there, done that, got the tele t-shirt and
moved on.

That's okay - lots of people never pick it up. Fortunately for the
folks that lack tele skills they still continue to make training
bindings.

Bob

Could be that some are open-minded enough to give something new a try,
explore it's potential, discover it's inherent limitations and move on.
Fortunately for the folks that lack critical thinking skills, pinnas
adoption of plastic boots, alpine skis and releaseable bindings has
made their gear virtually identical to AT gear and given it some
semblance of usefullness.

Now if they could just quit worrying about looking cool and lock down
their heels, they'd be onto something.

The again, they probably sucked at alpine skiing and therefore have
nothing to go back to. ;-)

A.

Armin wrote:
Bob Lee wrote:

Armin wrote:


Bob Lee wrote:

You sometimes have to be extra-clear with the folk still using

training

bindings. Nice people, and they mean well, but their lips move

when

they read, if you know what I mean.

"Still using..." ??? more like "Using again..." !!!

Sorry Pinhead, but been there, done that, got the tele t-shirt and
moved on.

That's okay - lots of people never pick it up. Fortunately for the
folks that lack tele skills they still continue to make training
bindings.

Bob


Could be that some are open-minded enough to give something new a try,
explore it's potential, discover it's inherent limitations and move on.
Fortunately for the folks that lack critical thinking skills, pinnas
adoption of plastic boots, alpine skis and releaseable bindings has
made their gear virtually identical to AT gear and given it some
semblance of usefullness.

Now if they could just quit worrying about looking cool and lock down
their heels, they'd be onto something.

The again, they probably sucked at alpine skiing and therefore have
nothing to go back to. ;-)

A.


I'll bite.
If you ever want to come meet me at Crested Butte or Monarch I'll wear
my painful Alpine boots one more time so you can tell me if I suck or not.
If you can hang that is...

Matt (the added challenge of free heels was a nice change)

The Real Bev wrote:
VtSkier wrote:


An interesting bit of trivia. You have all heard of Zero Mostel,
the actor, most probably. According to my former father-in-law,
he was a member of the 10th. How he got there, my f-i-l couldn't
explain, but said he was probably one of the laziest men he had
ever met. Would do anything to get out of activity of any sort.


According to the IMDB, he was born in Brooklyn in 1915 and was
investigated by McCarthy et al. "Senator, do I LOOK like I have enough
energy to be a communist spy?" He died in 1977, which was a surprise.
I figured he was still alive.


BTW, my father in law never made it to Monte Casino. He broke his
back in a jeep accident at Camp Hale. Healed up pretty well, but
was discharged with no battle experience.


Amazing that a broken back could be a lucky accident.

Lucky breaks can abound. I broke every bone in my right
foot while skiing in 1967. Was in the navy reserve at the
time, senior in college, already had half of OCS done for
them. Went to the navy doc in Burlington. He asked me if
I wanted to be in the navy. I said, "No sir." Abut 6 weeks
later I had an honorable discharge, convenience of the
government.

In rec.skiing.alpine Armin wrote:

The again, they probably sucked at alpine skiing and therefore have
nothing to go back to. ;-)

Don't laugh. That's my problem. I'd certainly own AT gear if I could
parallel fer ****. But I'd still tele probably most of the time..

-klaus

Bob Lee wrote:
VtSkier wrote:


Bob Lee posted:
http://www.telemarktalk.com/phpBB/vi...=6141&start=15
http://www.pawprince.com/Movies?Powderkeg_5.wmv
The first shows the boots (Scarpa F1) pretty well. I couldn't
get the Andrew page to work. Might that URL have a topo in it?


It's a video - here's the original link source:
http://www.telemarktalk.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=6360

Bob

Worked great from from there. Neat stuff.