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Hello all,
First time here. This group was recommended to me by Gene in the nordic group. My wife and I are very novice cc skiers. We really love this sport. I'm having a problem with sore feet. I have Alpina 1550 boots. After just 10 to 15 mins. my feet are killing me. I'd like to know if someone makes what would essentially be a boot bottom that would strap on my very comfortable insulated work boots and then clip into Rottefella nnn bindings. Thanks, Bill |
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KENT wrote:
Hello all, First time here. This group was recommended to me by Gene in the nordic group. My wife and I are very novice cc skiers. We really love this sport. I'm having a problem with sore feet. I have Alpina 1550 boots. After just 10 to 15 mins. my feet are killing me. I'd like to know if someone makes what would essentially be a boot bottom that would strap on my very comfortable insulated work boots and then clip into Rottefella nnn bindings. Thanks, Bill I'm waiting with baited breath for someone to respond to this in a serious way. |
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LOL Vt!!
I realize this probably sounds really stupid. Maybe there has never been anything like this made. I can't believe I'm the only one that gets sore feet from ski boots. So, I'm serious. Looking for serious responses. |
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I can't believe I'm the only one that gets sore feet from ski boots. So, I'm serious. Looking for serious responses. What kind of "sore"? Are they too tight? Are they poking or pinching in a particular spot or maybe just too tight all over? Are your boots the right size? Do you have funny feet? ... Try talking to a good boot person at a ski shop. In general, "very comfortable insulated work boots" are probably too sloppy for good skiing. -- These are my opinions, not necessarily my employer's. I hate spam. |
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I can't believe I'm the only one that gets sore feet from ski boots. So, I'm
serious. Looking for serious responses. That's lots of people. Will Steiger, the guys who did ski circuses to both Poles and lives in MN made some sort of plastic binding for use with his mukluks, but don't expect much kick and glide. I tried them once years ago because they were around, but I preferred my 75 mm set up, and I didn't get blisters or cold feet. In article , Hal Murray wrote: What kind of "sore"? Are they too tight? Are they poking or pinching in a particular spot or maybe just too tight all over? Are your boots the right size? Do you have funny feet? ... Try talking to a good boot person at a ski shop. In general, "very comfortable insulated work boots" are probably too sloppy for good skiing. I can't imagine a sloppier boot than a Steiger mukluk. I wore my Sorels into work just because I can into and out of them. -- |
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On Dec 18, 4:28 pm, (Eugene Miya) wrote:
I can't believe I'm the only one that gets sore feet from ski boots. So, I'm serious. Looking for serious responses. That's lots of people. Will Steger, the guys who did ski circuses to both Poles and lives in MN made some sort of plastic binding for use with his mukluks, but don't expect much kick and glide. I tried them once years ago because they were around, but I preferred my 75 mm set up, and I didn't get blisters or cold feet. Those bindings are called Berwin Backcountry Bindings. They were originally made by Bill and Gene Prater's Sherpa snowshoe company, so sometimes you'll hear (or see, if you have the old tan model) them called Sherpa bindings. Now they are made and distributed by Akers Cross-County Ski Shop in Andover, ME. (http://www.akers-ski.com/) The new, blue ones are pretty bomb-proof. Avoid the late 1990's black model. They had a well-deserved repuation for breaking under the ball of the foot. I use them with either mukluks or Sorel lace-up winter boots (NOT pacs!) on a pair of Trak Bushwacker II skis. I have been using them since they came out, and they are very comfortable. I don't have the strongest ankles in the world, particularly on the left side, but I never have any problems with mukluks and the Berwin/Bushwacker combo. I can switch back and forth between skis and snowshoes and not change footwear, which is a nice convenience. All that being said, I agree with those who suggest trying a different boot. I have a pair of Karhu Converts, which are a strong backcountry, 3-pin boot, which I actually wear the majority of the time I am skiing. I find they help to keep the afore-mentioned left ankle and fallen arches in place nicely when skiing for extended tours. To me, that justifies the extra weight. I also have a pair of strictly recreational 3-pin Alpha boots that I bought on a ski trip to the U.P. of Michigan, when the toe broke off my old LL Bean ski boots. They are warm and comfortable, but I can't use them for ski patrol or search and rescue. I have a pair of old Army skis with Ramer cable bindings on them. Great, bomb-proof (literally, I think) binding, which also work with my Converts. But I don't think your problem is the binding. Check out some new boots, wear the socks you will wear when you ski. I am sure, with the help of a knowlegable ski shop, you should be able to eliminate the pain problem. Ski safe, Hans Erdman, WEMT Backcountry Trail Patrol, MN www.trailpatrol.org www.wintersnowtrails.org |
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KENT wrote:
LOL Vt!! I realize this probably sounds really stupid. Maybe there has never been anything like this made. I can't believe I'm the only one that gets sore feet from ski boots. So, I'm serious. Looking for serious responses. Actually so am I. I use a pair of slightly modified, lightweight telemark boots for "heavy" touring. They work with both tele bindings and AT bindings (I never really got the hang of going downhill fast with free heels), and I have a pair of snowshoes that are compatible with any ski boot, they have crampon bindings. I use AT boots for general resort skiing and a little off-piste work. Both of these are wonderfully comfortable. The latter go on at 7:30AM and come off at 5PM with no adjustment or removal through the day. I have yet to find a pair of cross country boots which are actually comfortable. I think a great deal of the discomfort is from a lack of support in favor of "lightweight". A huge number of years ago, I used to do some surveying work. We often did this in winter. I modified some bindings to work with my wonderfully comfortable, insulated work boots. I moved the sides in and added a toe strap for security and the cable fit ok at the heel. I used this setup for working in the woods, on hillsides, in winter. I could move fast with normal cross country skis (narrow) and the boots still fit snowshoes when they were needed for steeper work. I'm a big guy, I don't race and bit more beef in my footwear is generally a good thing. If I did more cross-country or still worked in the woods in winter, I would consider a pair of "traditional" leather telemark boots. They are still made and used both here and in Europe. |
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Hello Kent
The word strap-on has a more popular use in a different sport. Is it your intention to ski in prepared machine cut trails or are you hoping to break trail and do skitouring in the backcountry. For intrack skiing definitely trawl the outfitters for advice and buy a comfortable pair of new or used boots. For touring you need to be looking in a different direction. My first touring boots and skis for travel in Peter Clich country were ex British Military issue, before I got interested in track and racing skiing. The boots were plain walking/working type boots with Vibram soles. The skis had a unique binding, the welt at the toe slid into two lips either side of the toeplate. There was a cable looped round the heel of the boot which clamped into a QR binding on the ski in front of the toe plate and held the boot in the two lips. I've no idea what the military use these days but I presume they must have a binding which grips a walking/working boot. If so that should work on your boots. Mike |
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In article ,
dardruba wrote: I've no idea what the military use these days but I presume they must have a binding which grips a walking/working boot. If so that should work on your boots. I believe it's called a NATO binding for obvious reasons. Rottefella makes it, Model 120. I think. I think the OP would be a lot better off switching to a different boot maker. Not everybody has alpina shaped feet, the other XC boots have a significantly different fit. For example, Alpina's kill my feet, but I'm perfectly happy in Rossignol boots. _ Booker C. Bense |
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