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Science behind skiing
I am currently in high school, and to recieve an extra credit, I have decided to write a thesis about the science behind nordic skiing. This includes physics, what happens with friction, the effects of wax on the ski, how each wax is different and so on. I already have several articles, but I think that it would be great to get firsthand knowledge. Plus its much easier in case I need clarifacation. I would be beyond grateful if anyone would be able to help me with this.
Just as a point of interest, I hope to get a job as a ski design/engineer after college. |
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Science behind skiing
Way to score an extra credit!
Perhaps you could explore what makes for the optimum glide. Length/width of the skis relative to body weight. Is it the smallest or the biggest that will still be somewhat practical for propulsion? Wide and short, narrow and long, etc, what are pro's and cons? That's one great dream to persue, becoming a ski designer, go all for it! Good luck, J "Nordic_Addict" schreef in bericht ... I am currently in high school, and to recieve an extra credit, I have decided to write a thesis about the science behind nordic skiing. This includes physics, what happens with friction, the effects of wax on the ski, how each wax is different and so on. I already have several articles, but I think that it would be great to get firsthand knowledge. Plus its much easier in case I need clarifacation. I would be beyond grateful if anyone would be able to help me with this. Just as a point of interest, I hope to get a job as a ski design/engineer after college. -- Nordic_Addict |
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Science behind skiing
there have been MANY discussions here on just the topics you've listed.
But, to re-hash all of it would be silly. Use your good friend "Google" to help you. http://groups.google.com/groups/sear....skiing.nordic http://groups.google.com/groups/sear...kiing.nordi c http://groups.google.com/groups/sear...ic&qt_s=Search http://groups.google.com/groups/sear...kiing.nordi c http://groups.google.com/groups/sear...k iing.nordic be sure to google WITHIN the rec.skiing. nordic for all our groups advice. have fun. JK |
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Science behind skiing
What's your name and where do you live? Firsthand knowledge means
hands-on experience. That means getting hooked up with somebody who can show you a lot of skis, explain some of the design principles, examine base materials, etc. There are a handful of people in different places that might be able to help you... Zach Nordic_Addict wrote: I am currently in high school, and to recieve an extra credit, I have decided to write a thesis about the science behind nordic skiing. This includes physics, what happens with friction, the effects of wax on the ski, how each wax is different and so on. I already have several articles, but I think that it would be great to get firsthand knowledge. Plus its much easier in case I need clarifacation. I would be beyond grateful if anyone would be able to help me with this. Just as a point of interest, I hope to get a job as a ski design/engineer after college. -- Nordic_Addict |
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After I start reading the articles i have, I'll come here if I need any clarifacation. Thanks, and please keep posting with information if possible. Isaac Last edited by Nordic_Addict : September 9th 06 at 04:47 PM. |
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Science behind skiing
this is great that you are interested in the science behind nordic
skiing. - there is still too much Voodoo in ski waxing - most of the published scientific research is in Nordic languages. Finland got its ski tunnel that allows modelling of skiing all-year-round. - research institutions in this country that have the capability to conduct good scientific research are not interested in Nordic skiing. But the fact that schools like MIT, Harvard, etc are in "skiable" states and have nordic teams helps. Someone just need to get interested in the subject (and not to expect getting rich overnight based on results of the research). - search this group for "Leonid Kuzmin". He claims to have conducted scientific reasearch on ski glide, and his thesis is available online. I don't find his study scienitific, but at least there is a list of references in his thesis, and some of the papers may even be in English. |
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Science behind skiing
The easy thing would be to go to the library and look up "ice physics."
Well, maybe you'd have to hit a college library....but, I found a ton of info in a book from about 1940 or 50 that I believe was called ice physics. There were a lot of basic experiements that would be an easy write up for a grade. Of course you can go the hard way and try to do it all online, and sift through all the garage that people have written who thing they know what's going on. Jay Wenner |
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Science behind skiing
Bjorn A. Payne Diaz wrote: The easy thing would be to go to the library and look up "ice physics." Well, maybe you'd have to hit a college library....but, I found a ton of info in a book from about 1940 or 50 that I believe was called ice physics. There were a lot of basic experiements that would be an easy write up for a grade. Does anyone use books for research papers anymore? 8-). I know getting my kids to go to the library instead of spending hours on line is very difficult. Have you checked the citation formats for on line sources lately? I thought I know how to cite, but there are many new forms to reflect the myriad type of sources found on internet - in turn reflecting the implied quality of the information, ranging from original publication (tending toward credible) to guys BSing on newgroups and other forums - (tending toward pure BS). Of course you can go the hard way and try to do it all online, and sift through all the garage that people have written who thing they know what's going on. Indeed BAPD. There's a lot of armchair theorists around who spout endlessly here and elsewhere about theoretical physics and other supposedly scientific aspects of skiing and waxing without any basis in either research or skill or experience in on snow skiing. I fear the kid in question will take some of that stuff as credible when there is actual credible sources out there. To the kid: beware of anything written in this forum - there's a lot of great stuff, but also a lot of stuff you shouldn't be citing. Look at the qualifications of whomever is writing. |
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Science behind skiing
write up for a grade.
Jay, I just re-read the OP (should do that more often b4 posting) and re-realized that it's all just for a high school grade. Just about anything will do for a high school grade. |
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