What's the deal with the Val d'Isere tunnel

In article , Brian McIlwrath
writes
Rob White wrote:
: Been to Val & Tignes 5 times in the last few years and it has never been
: open. Seeing as they've replaced the crappy 2 man "up and over" chair close
: by with a new quad, there seems litle point either.

Might disagree! The tunnel looks like it would lead to a steep black from near
the top of the ridge. "Lessieures" gets you over just fine but you don't
ski anything! Given the number of off-piste tracks always on that whole
ridge it looks popular to climb and then ski back down.

Tunnel is the one responsible for only 49 out of 50 lifts open, or
thereabouts.
I have only seen it open 3 times in 30 visits to Val and have only come
back down, never through it. It used to have doors on it.
A bit of an antique from the past.
A lot of the tracks up their are where people used to jump of the up
and over as it went over the ridge. The new lift has made that more
difficult if not impossible.
I am looking forward to the Gugini (sp) replacement. Anyone know?

--
Richard Crapp

In message , Brian McIlwrath
writes
I would disagree about Sache - at New Year the bottom section of it was
FAR the most difficult skiing in the whole resort. La Face was trivial
after it!

Narrow again was it? I've gone down it when it was one mogul wide for
about 400m! A right thigh pumper!
--
Pete Devlin
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"Mind the oranges Marlon!"

Jeremy Mortimer wrote:
Brian McIlwrath wrote in
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Jeremy Mortimer wrote:

: For red run skiers looking for blacks to try, I'd recommend the
Sache
: piste in Tignes for a long, not too difficult run (nice
restaurants
: in Brevieires at the bottom) or maybe the Face de Bellevard for
: thrills (if you're fit and fairly brave; it's bumpy and steep in
: places).

I would disagree about Sache - at New Year the bottom section of it
was FAR the most difficult skiing in the whole resort. La Face was
trivial after it!

Really? What was the problem? I've seen large patches of bare mud in
spring, but nothing too bad when it's actually got snow on it.

Are we talking about the same run?
80% of Sache is a fairly narrow but not too steep reddish-black run.
The last two piste markers have been the hardest marked run in the
whole of the resort the two times I've been down the last Feb they
were enormous, irregular, icy moguls. This March one long stretch of
ice, which about 20% of the people going down did on their behings, and
half the rest side-slipped. Face is easy by comparison (particularly
this year I noticed they have added a bail-out road round the steepest
bit).


Jeremy

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Jeremy Mortimer wrote:
Brian McIlwrath wrote in
:

Jeremy Mortimer wrote:

: For red run skiers looking for blacks to try, I'd recommend the
Sache
: piste in Tignes for a long, not too difficult run (nice
restaurants
: in Brevieires at the bottom) or maybe the Face de Bellevard for
: thrills (if you're fit and fairly brave; it's bumpy and steep in
: places).

I would disagree about Sache - at New Year the bottom section of it
was FAR the most difficult skiing in the whole resort. La Face was
trivial after it!

Really? What was the problem? I've seen large patches of bare mud in
spring, but nothing too bad when it's actually got snow on it.

Are we talking about the same run?
80% of Sache is a fairly narrow but not too steep reddish-black run.
The last two piste markers have been the hardest marked run in the
whole of the resort the two times I've been down the last Feb they
were enormous, irregular, icy moguls. This March one long stretch of
ice, which about 20% of the people going down did on their behings, and
half the rest side-slipped. Face is easy by comparison (particularly
this year I noticed they have added a bail-out road round the steepest
bit).

Oh, alright - I should probably not have commented on pistes, I obviously
haven't been paying attention. Thanks to everyone for correcting me.

But aren't enormous icy moguls the point of black pistes? :-)

Jeremy