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"Monique Y. Mudama" wrote in message
So, which is better, reaching forward to pole plant or just flicking the pole with your wrist? good pole use is more than just the plant; it's timing the swing to match the turns you are doing. When you get it right, the swings match your rythem; the actually set the rythem of your descent down the hill. rather than hunting for the next turn, you make it on cue. The poles are moving, as you are, into each turn. ant |
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"Monique Y. Mudama" wrote in message
... On 2005-01-10, VtSkier penned: I have actually thought about dragging my poles a bit. It's always the inside pole (see another thread in another location to see what I mean by "inside", it's relative to the turn). I can't imagine how it would be the outside pole, unless you were doing something really weird. You have to keep in mind that your inside eventually becomes the outside. If you 'hold' onto the inside too long it keeps you from making a transition / commitment to entering the new turn. If you are adding more completion to the turn to kill speed (ie turning more uphill) you remain dynamic on the skis. If you are just end up making a slight traverse you lose your dynamic rhythm and your skis lose some of their rebound and grip. An interesting exercise is (on a groomed pitch) to drag both poles tips with slight preasure, aprox in line with your toe pieces. Assuming your hand position is good it helps make you aware of your fore aft position, and how perpindicular (inclination vs angulation) you are to the hill. Since it makes you move your center of mass across your skis to release your edges, it gives you a good idea what your core mass is doing as arm and shoulder thrusts are taken out of the equation. I've said a lot about hands. Putting them and keeping them where they belong and actually using them very little will cure many of the "problems" you are describing. So, which is better, reaching forward to pole plant or just flicking the pole with your wrist? You don't want to 'box' with your hands -should be a wrist action. The quick release of the plant is important as if you try to hold on to it as a 3rd leg, your arm and shoulder get pushed, knocking you back and rotating your upperbody uphill. You do want to reach though -just not with your arm. Remember your plant is part of your early commitment to the new turn, which includes flattening edges and moving center of mass. If you reach with your arm, your torso can fold and your butt and other arm can just offset it making you more like a tightrope walker balancing on your traverse w/o releasing your edges. Instead combine your wrist movement with a reach of your belly button, making your torso help your pole 'tip' reach downhill and thus releasing your edges so you can then make the turn. Hope this dusting out of the corners of my brain helps. F. Plant |
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"Monique Y. Mudama" wrote in message
... On 2005-01-10, thinnmann penned: Here is a drill for Monique to keep her hands up - right out of race camp: On a blue cruiser, hold both poles in both hands, across the front of your body. Make turns thinking "forward", tipping bothskis on edge, linking the turns. Holding the poles like this will prevent your hands from dropping back and make you pressure your edges properly. Do this like all day long one day! Um, my next ski trip was gonna be to Mary Jane *gulp* However, I have seen that drill and I agree it would be great for me. I'd forgotten about it. I'll have to remember to do that. mary Jane at Winter Park? nice gentle terrain, nothing gnarly. If you want more groomers, then WP is just over the hill. ant |
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On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 18:50:31 -0600, Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
On 2005-01-10, Monique Y. Mudama penned: I'm supposed to be doing PT to strengthen my inner thighs supposed?? Thirty pounds of excess weight would make anyones thighs burn. Mine used to. I am in the best shape in my life and just skied seven days straight for 6 hours a day and not one bit of thigh burn. I either bike, work out with weights or walk every day but Sunday. I eat pretty much anything that I want .. 5'10" .. 160 lbs. Been doing this for several years. Most every overweight person I know has a list of excuses.. usually starting with medication. Forgot to mention that the entire width of my quad gets sore during skiing, not just the inside. Not surprising..try carrying 4 gallons of milk around with you everywhere you go. Change your lifestyle..don't diet. overandout |
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"ant" wrote in message
... "Monique Y. Mudama" wrote in message ... On 2005-01-10, ant penned: "Monique Y. Mudama" wrote in message When instructors, friends, etc, try to get me to feel the point where my boots are providing all of my support, I never seem to find it, whether on my old boots (salomon evolution) or my new (salomon women's xwave 8). It *always* seems like my quads are involved. You should not try to use your boots to "hold you up". A terrible habit, we see a lot of it in the US. I have been skiing with my top buckle undone this last week, just to fine-tune my balance a bit more and to prevent me using any kind of fore-aft leverage in my boots. Sore quads are invariably caused by the hips being back (just half an inch is all it takes), which is a common skiing position of many. Sorry to be a pain, but can you find an online picture that demonstrates the proper body position? I've heard that I should be forward, and I've heard that (with modern skis) I shouldn't have to bend my knees excessively. I've also heard that I should imagine a line through my feet, knees, and (hands? head?), which seems like I'd *have* to bend my knees a lot. So confused =/ There is no correct position; skiing balance is dynamic, not static. to test your slow-speed start balance, jump up and down a few times on skis; the way you land about the third time is where you should be. you shouldn't bend anything exessively, it all works together: ankles, knees, hips, every bit of your spine, neck, head, hands. forget lines and whatnot, it's dynamic balance. you should align your bones up over the arch of your foot, but having said that, as you advance into a turn, you move your hips toward the tips of your skis, then settle back progressivly on the arch of your foot. Through every turn, you should be moving this way constantly. but then you add terrain, snow depth, speed, bumps vs groom.. this balance has to work with all of it. you might bend everyting to cope with some bumps, or some deep pow...the trick is to come out of it back to your "home" balance position, before coping with the next bumps or pile of pow or whatever. ant Regarding the dynamic balance, one explanation has stuck in my mind that drives this home. If you balance on one leg, you are static and eventually teeter and fall. If you hop on one leg you are dynamic and are always getting a new base of stability so you don't fall. For the big joint movements ants comment of it 'all works together' is right, as this is what keeps you stacked up over your feet. Bend one joint excessively and your feet and boots and skis become a lever arm, not a balance point. Adding to the idea of using and aligning joints, try and have the axis lines that run thru your major joints pointing in the same direction. Its tough to be balanced and dynamic if you are twisted up like a pretzel as your movement is really hampered. As I've mentioned in a previous thread and ant also mentioned here, unbuckling the boots helps isolate you from the rigid ski and boot connection, letting you really feel when you are truly balanced (and also when you are using the back of the boot as a lever to help hold you up in the back seat!). F.Plant |
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On 2005-01-12, ant penned:
mary Jane at Winter Park? nice gentle terrain, nothing gnarly. If you want more groomers, then WP is just over the hill. Obviously your definition of gnarly differs from mine =P -- monique Longmont, CO |
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On 2005-01-12, ant penned:
"Monique Y. Mudama" wrote in message Private lessons are rather expensive; group lessons often end up being only partially useful, and of course I get less direct attention. well, it depends on how much the problem is bothering you. And how much money I have! I've spent a lot on skiing this year. I have spent the last 3 days clinicing, and it always amuses me how the punters watch a group of instructors listening to one person talk, and then go down the hill doing strange things, just like in a lesson. Adn they never twig that skiing is a sport just like any other. You only improve with good coaching, and then practising what the coach has given you. Not quite sure I understand your paragraph, but I agree that lessons and practice are key. I say, good coaching. There are many instructors in the US... get a recommendation. That's all I'm going to say on that matter! Well, an ex-ski instructor friend of mine may be able to help me out in that direction, without the pesky money aspect. She's had multiple knee surgeries and can't get off the blue groomers, but as I understand it bad habits are for the most part evident even on the easy stuff. -- monique Longmont, CO |
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"Monique Y. Mudama" writes: Sorry to be a pain, but can you find an online picture that demonstrates the proper body position? Here's one: Notice the hands in front, pole ready for the next bump, looking forward... http://www.digis.net/~mellib/favski/ski3.jpg And give credit where credit is due, this is a picture taken by our own Mikey... bruno. |
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"Monique Y. Mudama" wrote in message
... On 2005-01-12, ant penned: mary Jane at Winter Park? nice gentle terrain, nothing gnarly. If you want more groomers, then WP is just over the hill. Obviously your definition of gnarly differs from mine =P I did my level II exam at mary jane, and the group spent a lot of time searching for appropriate bumps for the bumps segment. Seemed like a pretty nice, blue easy-black sort of place. ant |
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"F. Plant" wrote in message news:K9cFd.25603
unbuckling the boots helps isolate you from the rigid ski and boot connection, letting you really feel when you are truly balanced (and also when you are using the back of the boot as a lever to help hold you up in the back seat!). I tend to get too far forward, so while the snow's been soft, I've just left the top buckle flopping. And if cruising a bit, I undo the ankle buckle also. At home we often make training runs with every buckle AND the power strap totally undone, but apparently it's not allowed over there. ant |
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