Speaking of Lame Ski Sites. . .

vbenares wrote:

vbenares wrote:

Try checking out the mountain maps for Keystone:

http://vail.instawatch.com/Key0405Wi...r_content.html

Can any normal person actually use things like this?


I can zoom in but cannot expand the map "window" - it occupies just a
bit more than a quarter of my screen with the rest being white. And by
the time I can read the names of the runs, there is no way to see where
the run starts and/or where it ends - that's kind of a big reason to use
a map.

Hrm. I'm guessing that they didn't exactly bust their butts checking
browser compatibility. I'm using Netscape 7.1, meself, and I had
problems too.


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Mary Malmros
Some days you're the windshield, other days you're the bug.

Mary Malmros wrote:
vbenares wrote:

vbenares wrote:

Try checking out the mountain maps for Keystone:

http://vail.instawatch.com/Key0405Wi...r_content.html

Can any normal person actually use things like this?


I can zoom in but cannot expand the map "window" - it occupies just a
bit more than a quarter of my screen with the rest being white. And
by the time I can read the names of the runs, there is no way to see
where the run starts and/or where it ends - that's kind of a big
reason to use a map.


Hrm. I'm guessing that they didn't exactly bust their butts checking
browser compatibility. I'm using Netscape 7.1, meself, and I had
problems too.


Hmmm, Works just fine for me with Netscape 7.1. And with Safari - the
browser that comes with MacOSX.

Janet

vbenares wrote:
Try checking out the mountain maps for Keystone:

http://vail.instawatch.com/Key0405Wi...r_content.html

Can any normal person actually use things like this?

Kind of tough to read, but:

Anybody know if that "Outback Cat Shuttle" up to South Bowl is a freebee
included with the ticket? If not - can anyone estimate the hiking time?

Mary Malmros wrote in
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Chuck wrote:
vbenares wrote in news:J9xnd.30436$KJ6.19598
@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net:


Try checking out the mountain maps for Keystone:

http://vail.instawatch.com/Key0405Wi...r_content.html

Can any normal person actually use things like this?



I find it pretty easy to use myself.

I found that I could zoom in, but never zoom out. Was that just me?


Must be a Netscape thing. All I had to do with click on the "-" to the
right of the map.

Janet wrote:

Mary Malmros wrote:

vbenares wrote:

vbenares wrote:

Try checking out the mountain maps for Keystone:

http://vail.instawatch.com/Key0405Wi...r_content.html

Can any normal person actually use things like this?

I can zoom in but cannot expand the map "window" - it occupies just a
bit more than a quarter of my screen with the rest being white. And
by the time I can read the names of the runs, there is no way to see
where the run starts and/or where it ends - that's kind of a big
reason to use a map.

Hrm. I'm guessing that they didn't exactly bust their butts checking
browser compatibility. I'm using Netscape 7.1, meself, and I had
problems too.


Hmmm, Works just fine for me with Netscape 7.1. And with Safari - the
browser that comes with MacOSX.

Technically, it "works" with my Mozilla browser, i.e. I can zoom and
move around. But, it doesn't "work," as in being able to extract useful
information from it.

Here's an example of one that "works" both ways:
http://skiwinterpark.com/mountain/trailmaps.html

lal_truckee wrote:

vbenares wrote:

Try checking out the mountain maps for Keystone:

http://vail.instawatch.com/Key0405Wi...r_content.html

Can any normal person actually use things like this?


Kind of tough to read, but:

Anybody know if that "Outback Cat Shuttle" up to South Bowl is a freebee
included with the ticket? If not - can anyone estimate the hiking time?

It's not a freebie. I think I read that it is $5 a cat trip. If it was
open last year, and I don't think it was, we didn't hike it.

lal_truckee wrote:
http://vail.instawatch.com/Key0405Wi...r_content.html

Kind of tough to read, but:

Anybody know if that "Outback Cat Shuttle" up to South Bowl is a freebee
included with the ticket? If not - can anyone estimate the hiking time?

Freebie?!?! Surely you jest. Keystone is owned by Vail, after all.
According to the Keystone website at
http://keystone.snow.com/info/katridingtours.asp you'll have to pay
five bucks per ride:

The Outback Shuttle Service
Get a ride to some of your favorite terrain skiing at Keystone!
Instead of hiking The Outback, you can ride a cat that will be
servicing The Outback bowls. The cat makes passes on The Outback
travel route only. No Reservations.

Dates: Condition Dependant
Time: 10:30am - 1:30pm
Location: Meet at Outback Bowls gate, atop The Outback
Price: $5
Professional crew: Operator and Gear Loader
Capacity: Snowcat holds 12 people

It's been a few years since I've been there, but it only took about 5
minutes to get to Puma Bowl. The South Bowl is probably another 15-20
minutes of mostly flat hiking. Personally, I never went all the way
out, but that was mostly because I was outvoted by my ski partners.

(Richard M) wrote in message . com...
lal_truckee wrote:
http://vail.instawatch.com/Key0405Wi...r_content.html

Kind of tough to read, but:

Anybody know if that "Outback Cat Shuttle" up to South Bowl is a freebee
included with the ticket? If not - can anyone estimate the hiking time?

Freebie?!?! Surely you jest. Keystone is owned by Vail, after all.
According to the Keystone website at
http://keystone.snow.com/info/katridingtours.asp you'll have to pay
five bucks per ride:

The Outback Shuttle Service
Get a ride to some of your favorite terrain skiing at Keystone!
Instead of hiking The Outback, you can ride a cat that will be
servicing The Outback bowls. The cat makes passes on The Outback
travel route only. No Reservations.

Dates: Condition Dependant
Time: 10:30am - 1:30pm
Location: Meet at Outback Bowls gate, atop The Outback
Price: $5
Professional crew: Operator and Gear Loader
Capacity: Snowcat holds 12 people

It's been a few years since I've been there, but it only took about 5
minutes to get to Puma Bowl. The South Bowl is probably another 15-20
minutes of mostly flat hiking. Personally, I never went all the way
out, but that was mostly because I was outvoted by my ski partners.


I've been all the way out and it can take up to 45 minutes. Now that
that cat goes there and the snow is going to be cut up, I can think of
many more places in the county where a 15 to 45 minute hike will get
you much better untracked terrian. If the snow is good there, just go
to the Basin and do about a 30 step hike to get some untracked or just
ski Loveland Pass.

snoig