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Just quick, Now you know why I want to slow down
This was from a post from back in Jan, '96. Now you all know why I want to
know how to go a little slower on the downhills. Oooohh wheel melt. Nice. cheers Bob From Jenex's page: How Not To Roller Ski: On June 28th we received a phone call from Austria reporting on a German Biathlete skiing down a 18% grade with the V2-850V skis without having engaged the Speed Reducers. At a speed that by onlookers was estimated to be in excess of 70km/hr. he bent over to engage the Speed Reducers. As the force of acceleration was greater than the braking effect he continued to accelerate and some 100 meters later the wheels melted. Fortunately he stood up and was not hurt. This whole thing sounds insane. Why would anyone except a suicide candidate ski down an 18% grade? And, how could anyone attempt this without Speed Reducers fully engaged at the start? We calculated that at the time he engaged the Speed Reducers the wheels were turning at 6,000 RPM and the Speed Reducer was rotating at 18,000 RPM. We found out this person weighed 81 Kg.,180 lbs. Totally unbelivable, but we know it's true because it was Ferry Grill who told us. Ferry is Gunde Svan's former technician and our Distributor who provided this person with the skis. All you athletes, think safety first when training. Getting hurt could put you back months and ruin your racing season. http://groups.google.com/groups?q=sp...ordic&start=30 &hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=rec.skiing.nordic&selm=s250d800.086%40medt ronic.CO M&rnum=35 |
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Just quick, Now you know why I want to slow down
How Not To Roller Ski: On June 28th we received a phone call from
Austria reporting on a German Biathlete skiing down a 18% grade with the V2-850V skis without having engaged the Speed Reducers. At a speed that by onlookers was estimated to be in excess of 70km/hr. he bent over to engage the Speed Reducers. As the force of acceleration was greater than the braking effect he continued to accelerate and some 100 meters later the wheels melted. Fortunately he stood up and was not hurt. This whole thing sounds insane. Why would anyone except a suicide candidate ski down an 18% grade? And, how could anyone attempt this without Speed Reducers fully engaged at the start? Theres an excellent Rollerski Track at Ramsau in Austria and that is insanely steep in places. I bottled out of the Severe route, I'd walked to first turn at the start of the hill, looked up and up and up and almost fell over backwards. How could they get a tarmac road surface machine up there? I did walk up the loop but was passed on the steep downhill by a biathlon youngster who then skipped sideways at speed off the road into the biathlon bay. Whew, and these were racing rollskis with no speedreducers. The Medium route was severe enough for me but in heavy rain I attempted a cautious plow into the first downhill banked turn and my wheels just slid sideways up the bank, onto the scrub. Early bath for me that day. Mike |
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Just quick, Now you know why I want to slow down
This story just gives one more reason not to use speed reducers!
The rollerski loop at Ramsau has several pitches that are that steep, although short. I, among several hundred other skiers have hurtled down those stretches without speed reducers. I was scared, but not suicidal. It is pretty easy to get up to 60+kph on rollerskis, though, even without suicidal 18% stretches. Obviously, one should use common sense, but manufacturers should not defend shoddy products by calling people stupid. The equipment should be able to deal with all extremes that could reasonably be encountered or they should have a warning on them: "These wheels will melt if you attempt to use them to slow down after you are already going too fast." Personally, I think all rollerskis should be sold with warning labels: "You are about to engage in a silly, dangerous pastime; be sure to have proper insurance in place, and never go anywhere where you might be forced to slow or stop unexpectedly." -Nathan http://nsavage.com "Taywood" wrote in message ... How Not To Roller Ski: On June 28th we received a phone call from Austria reporting on a German Biathlete skiing down a 18% grade with the V2-850V skis without having engaged the Speed Reducers. At a speed that by onlookers was estimated to be in excess of 70km/hr. he bent over to engage the Speed Reducers. As the force of acceleration was greater than the braking effect he continued to accelerate and some 100 meters later the wheels melted. Fortunately he stood up and was not hurt. This whole thing sounds insane. Why would anyone except a suicide candidate ski down an 18% grade? And, how could anyone attempt this without Speed Reducers fully engaged at the start? Theres an excellent Rollerski Track at Ramsau in Austria and that is insanely steep in places. I bottled out of the Severe route, I'd walked to first turn at the start of the hill, looked up and up and up and almost fell over backwards. How could they get a tarmac road surface machine up there? I did walk up the loop but was passed on the steep downhill by a biathlon youngster who then skipped sideways at speed off the road into the biathlon bay. Whew, and these were racing rollskis with no speedreducers. The Medium route was severe enough for me but in heavy rain I attempted a cautious plow into the first downhill banked turn and my wheels just slid sideways up the bank, onto the scrub. Early bath for me that day. Mike |
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Just quick, Now you know why I want to slow down
I'll check it out. I'm over at Dachstein next month and I'll have the
rollerskis with me. I'll ride the MTB around first. Tarmac just hurts too much.....OK, I admit, I'm a pussy. Looking forward to getting a ski in though! I just hope this heat goes away. "Nathan Schultz" schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:d0s1b.170539$cF.57935@rwcrnsc53... This story just gives one more reason not to use speed reducers! The rollerski loop at Ramsau has several pitches that are that steep, although short. I, among several hundred other skiers have hurtled down those stretches without speed reducers. I was scared, but not suicidal. It is pretty easy to get up to 60+kph on rollerskis, though, even without suicidal 18% stretches. Obviously, one should use common sense, but manufacturers should not defend shoddy products by calling people stupid. The equipment should be able to deal with all extremes that could reasonably be encountered or they should have a warning on them: "These wheels will melt if you attempt to use them to slow down after you are already going too fast." Personally, I think all rollerskis should be sold with warning labels: "You are about to engage in a silly, dangerous pastime; be sure to have proper insurance in place, and never go anywhere where you might be forced to slow or stop unexpectedly." -Nathan http://nsavage.com "Taywood" wrote in message ... How Not To Roller Ski: On June 28th we received a phone call from Austria reporting on a German Biathlete skiing down a 18% grade with the V2-850V skis without having engaged the Speed Reducers. At a speed that by onlookers was estimated to be in excess of 70km/hr. he bent over to engage the Speed Reducers. As the force of acceleration was greater than the braking effect he continued to accelerate and some 100 meters later the wheels melted. Fortunately he stood up and was not hurt. This whole thing sounds insane. Why would anyone except a suicide candidate ski down an 18% grade? And, how could anyone attempt this without Speed Reducers fully engaged at the start? Theres an excellent Rollerski Track at Ramsau in Austria and that is insanely steep in places. I bottled out of the Severe route, I'd walked to first turn at the start of the hill, looked up and up and up and almost fell over backwards. How could they get a tarmac road surface machine up there? I did walk up the loop but was passed on the steep downhill by a biathlon youngster who then skipped sideways at speed off the road into the biathlon bay. Whew, and these were racing rollskis with no speedreducers. The Medium route was severe enough for me but in heavy rain I attempted a cautious plow into the first downhill banked turn and my wheels just slid sideways up the bank, onto the scrub. Early bath for me that day. Mike |
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