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first double black!
Whee! I did my first double black ever yesterday. Main Street at
A-Basin. I'm told that, as double blacks go, it's not that high on the "pucker factor" -- but that's okay. It was a good confidence builder, and it was a lot more fun than I thought it'd be. -- monique |
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Monique Y. Herman wrote:
Whee! I did my first double black ever yesterday. Main Street at A-Basin. I'm told that, as double blacks go, it's not that high on the "pucker factor" -- but that's okay. It was a good confidence builder, and it was a lot more fun than I thought it'd be. Major congrats... be careful.. next thing you know you'll be asking about Dynafit vs. Fritschi. And Whippets. -klaus |
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"Monique Y. Herman" wrote in
: Whee! I did my first double black ever yesterday. Main Street at A-Basin. I'm told that, as double blacks go, it's not that high on the "pucker factor" -- but that's okay. It was a good confidence builder, and it was a lot more fun than I thought it'd be. Congrats! You weren't the chick on tele skis doing zipper-line bumps at the bottom, were you? I coaxed a buddy into Alley 3 and was disappointed to discover that the "exit exam" was still closed off. Had to traverse back out to Pali Face to finish up. And damn East Face needs a boatload of coverage to be skiable. Winter Park today was *muuuuuuuucho* better than A-Basin on Saturday, though. A foot of fresh and not enough people to track it out. sigh -T.O.M.- |
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On 2004-02-10, klaus penned:
Monique Y. Herman wrote: Whee! I did my first double black ever yesterday. Main Street at A-Basin. I'm told that, as double blacks go, it's not that high on the "pucker factor" -- but that's okay. It was a good confidence builder, and it was a lot more fun than I thought it'd be. Major congrats... be careful.. next thing you know you'll be asking about Dynafit vs. Fritschi. And Whippets. That's a self-fulfilling prophecy, as I have no idea what you're talking about. So now I have to ask: what are Dynafit, Fritschi, and Whippets? -- monique |
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On 2004-02-10, SkaredShtles penned:
"Monique Y. Herman" wrote in : Whee! I did my first double black ever yesterday. Main Street at A-Basin. I'm told that, as double blacks go, it's not that high on the "pucker factor" -- but that's okay. It was a good confidence builder, and it was a lot more fun than I thought it'd be. Congrats! You weren't the chick on tele skis doing zipper-line bumps at the bottom, were you? Heh. No. I was the chick on alpine skis taking my sweet time. A few turns, stop, find a line, rinse, repeat. I never fell, though. Oddly enough, it seemed easier to turn on this steeper slope than on less-steep slopes, so the moguls weren't as intimidating. Weird. I coaxed a buddy into Alley 3 and was disappointed to discover that the "exit exam" was still closed off. Had to traverse back out to Pali Face to finish up. I'm not quite to that point, yet. Alley 3 is part of the super-narrow glade stuff, right? And damn East Face needs a boatload of coverage to be skiable. Winter Park today was *muuuuuuuucho* better than A-Basin on Saturday, though. A foot of fresh and not enough people to track it out. sigh Sigh. I believe it. I won't be able to ski till this weekend ... and I'm not even sure about that, but I have high hopes. -- monique |
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Monique Y. Herman wrote:
On 2004-02-10, klaus penned: Monique Y. Herman wrote: Whee! I did my first double black ever yesterday. Main Street at A-Basin. I'm told that, as double blacks go, it's not that high on the "pucker factor" -- but that's okay. It was a good confidence builder, and it was a lot more fun than I thought it'd be. Major congrats... be careful.. next thing you know you'll be asking about Dynafit vs. Fritschi. And Whippets. That's a self-fulfilling prophecy, as I have no idea what you're talking about. So now I have to ask: what are Dynafit, Fritschi, and Whippets? I only know Dynafit in a ski context. It's a custom liner. I have some and I swear by them. Once your stock liners pack out and you boots don't fit like they used to you should get some too. IIRC Whippets where the Nitrous cartridges we'd fill balloons with and inhale for a buzz in my younger days. Chances are, that's not what's being referred to here. Matt |
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"Monique Y. Herman" wrote in
: Congrats! You weren't the chick on tele skis doing zipper-line bumps at the bottom, were you? Heh. No. I was the chick on alpine skis taking my sweet time. A few turns, stop, find a line, rinse, repeat. I never fell, though. Oddly enough, it seemed easier to turn on this steeper slope than on less-steep slopes, so the moguls weren't as intimidating. Weird. Congrats. I did my first single black this year. I too found it easier to make the ski's turn on the steeper terrain though I didn't stop at all between turns (except to help a fallen skier get his poles back). I'll probably only get out 1 or 2 more days this season with this weekend being one. I may try a double black on one of those trips. I do have to wonder if a black in PA counts the same as a black anywhere else. -- Chuck Remove "_nospam" to reply by email |
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On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 16:54:07 CST, Chuck
wrote: "Monique Y. Herman" wrote in : Congrats! You weren't the chick on tele skis doing zipper-line bumps at the bottom, were you? Heh. No. I was the chick on alpine skis taking my sweet time. A few turns, stop, find a line, rinse, repeat. I never fell, though. Oddly enough, it seemed easier to turn on this steeper slope than on less-steep slopes, so the moguls weren't as intimidating. Weird. Congrats. I did my first single black this year. I too found it easier to make the ski's turn on the steeper terrain though I didn't stop at all between turns (except to help a fallen skier get his poles back). I'll probably only get out 1 or 2 more days this season with this weekend being one. I may try a double black on one of those trips. I do have to wonder if a black in PA counts the same as a black anywhere else. A black in any given resort equates to other blacks in the same resort (if you're lucky). There is no real correlation between the grades of slopes between different resorts, never mind different states. CynicA given resort will determine what their ideal skier profile is, and then make sure they grade the slopes to attract that profile of skier./Cynic Even if they have no really difficult terrain, almost all resorts will designate their hardest runs as double blacks, and most will create at least one green from each lift, if at all possible. Which can lead to some real anomalies. I have only skied in North America once, when I went to Jasper, Lake Louise, and Sunshine. Jasper & Lake Louise were mostly graded fairly closely, apart from the fact that at Jasper, they had just put in a new chair up to Eagle Ridge, and decided they *must* have a green run down from it. That green was harder than several of the LL blues, and was probably harder than ANY of the Sunshine blues. Sunshine generally was graded significantly higher than the other two. Most of their blues would have been greens at either of the other two. -- Alex Heney, Global Villager It's deja vu all over again. To reply by email, my address is aDOTjDOTheneyATbtinternetDOTcom |
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On 2004-02-10, Chuck penned:
Congrats. Thank you! I did my first single black this year. I too found it easier to make the ski's turn on the steeper terrain though I didn't stop at all between turns (except to help a fallen skier get his poles back). I'll probably only get out 1 or 2 more days this season with this weekend being one. I may try a double black on one of those trips. I do have to wonder if a black in PA counts the same as a black anywhere else. Congrats to you! Which resort in PA? Off the top of my head, I seem to recall that Seven Springs, Blue Knob, and Hidden Valley, not to mention Roundtop and Ski Liberty, are all in PA, but they certainly aren't all the same in terms of difficulty. (Minuteman at Roundtop was my first ever blue.) I think the only thing I can say with absolute confidence is that runs in PA are pretty short. There's just not much vertical to work with. Other than that, "anywhere else" is hard to guage, and varies by condition. Here in Colorado, it sure seems like Vail blacks are easier than A-Basin blacks, but that may just be because the A-Basin blacks are shadier, so it's harder to see the terrain. I wouldn't worry too much about how the blacks you've skied compare to blacks at other mountains, but I would suggest that it's fun exploring new resorts, and that it's probably a good idea to start out on a blue at a new resort, just to get a feel for the place. Of course, on any given day, conditions can alter the difficulty of the runs quite a bit. I have a feeling that, regardless of steepness, eastern ice would mess me up, now that I'm used to Colorado snow. That being said, my first non-eastern ski trip was in Utah, and the runs seemed a lot tougher to me than the ones I'd skied out East. I think that's mostly due to the fact that they weren't groomed, though. I thought I was doing okay on single blacks at the time, but when I got to Utah, I had to scale back to blues to be comfortable. -- monique |
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On 2004-02-11, Alex Heney penned:
A black in any given resort equates to other blacks in the same resort (if you're lucky). There is no real correlation between the grades of slopes between different resorts, never mind different states. I seem to recall someone telling me that at Breckenridge, the difference between a blue and a blue-black was that the blue-blacks weren't necessarily groomed. Just to add some confusion. Even if they have no really difficult terrain, almost all resorts will designate their hardest runs as double blacks, and most will create at least one green from each lift, if at all possible. I hadn't noticed this particularly, but I have a couple of green-related nits to pick with resorts. 1) "Longest run." Every resort has this statistic, and it's always the catwalk that zigzags across the entire mountain 14 times. How about "Longest non-traverse run" or "Longest black, blue, green run"? 2) Greens vs. catwalks. I wish these were more clearly distinguished. On some maps, you can guesstimate, but on some, you're stuck. Catwalks are annoying enough as a skier, but when you're with friends who snowboard, they're torture! Which can lead to some real anomalies. I have only skied in North America once, when I went to Jasper, Lake Louise, and Sunshine. Jasper & Lake Louise were mostly graded fairly closely, apart from the fact that at Jasper, they had just put in a new chair up to Eagle Ridge, and decided they *must* have a green run down from it. That green was harder than several of the LL blues, and was probably harder than ANY of the Sunshine blues. Sunshine generally was graded significantly higher than the other two. Most of their blues would have been greens at either of the other two. Oof. That really sucks for beginners who just want to see more of the mountain. Actually, though, some greens can end up being pretty demanding -- they're heavily travelled, so they're either bare in places or icy. They're mostly flat, but there are big "slow" signs to keep you from picking up speed to carry you through the flat areas (granted, I understand that new skiers shouldn't have to deal with people treating their area as a race course). And there are tons of obstacles, er, people scattered across the run, moving erratically, falling, etc. that you have to avoid. -- monique |
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