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Old February 16th 05, 03:59 AM
Booker C. Bense
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_ Well, my dad talked me into trying NASTAR[1] this season.
I finally managed to get one of the few places in CA that
runs it and it was actually kind of fun. It had been 30 years
since I'd run any gates and frankly there was a reason I
decided to concentrate on XC racing when I was 15. I chose
to use tele gear so I'd have an excuse for being bad....

_ If you're stuck someplace with boring terrain or poor
snow conditions, I suggest trying it. It's definitely a
different challenge from trying to ski stuff as steep
as you dare. For me the big difference was trying to
turn as little as possible and I never really figured
out how to power out of the turn like you can on alpine
gear.

_ Booker C. Bense

[1]- www.nastar.com

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Old February 16th 05, 12:12 PM
Peter Clinch
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Booker C. Bense wrote:

_ Well, my dad talked me into trying NASTAR[1] this season.
I finally managed to get one of the few places in CA that
runs it and it was actually kind of fun. It had been 30 years
since I'd run any gates


It's always struck me as a bit silly that you're allowed to hit the
gates with your body. I think they should set up a course through a bit
of sparse woodland using trees, and then see how close people were
willing to get to gates!

Pete.
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Old February 16th 05, 03:24 PM
Booker C. Bense
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Peter Clinch wrote:
Booker C. Bense wrote:

_ Well, my dad talked me into trying NASTAR[1] this season.
I finally managed to get one of the few places in CA that
runs it and it was actually kind of fun. It had been 30 years
since I'd run any gates


It's always struck me as a bit silly that you're allowed to hit the
gates with your body. I think they should set up a course through a bit
of sparse woodland using trees, and then see how close people were
willing to get to gates!


_ That's how slalom racing originated long ago. After enough
broken shoulders, they started putting bamboo poles up.
Even in the bamboo pole era it wasn't always a great idea
to hit the poles.

_ I wasn't hitting any poles, the danger of hooking a tip
with plastic boots and non-releasable bindings seems a bit
too high for an 80 cent medal...

_ Booker C. Bense

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Old February 16th 05, 03:41 PM
Matt
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Booker C. Bense bbense+rec.skiing.backcountry.Feb.16.05@telemark. slac.stanford.edu wrote:

: _ I wasn't hitting any poles, the danger of hooking a tip
: with plastic boots and non-releasable bindings seems a bit
: too high for an 80 cent medal...

this exact scenario cost me a broken ankle last year. but an earlier run also
qualified me for Nastar Nationals- tele category is far underpopulated
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Old February 16th 05, 03:43 PM
Peter Clinch
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Booker C. Bense wrote:

_ That's how slalom racing originated long ago. After enough
broken shoulders, they started putting bamboo poles up.
Even in the bamboo pole era it wasn't always a great idea
to hit the poles.


Fair enough to avoid the broken shoulders, of course, but I don't see
why you're now allowed to hit them just because they don't bite! In
canoe/kayak slalom you get a time penalty for hitting a gate, so
requiring greater skill to cut the course as fine as possible. ISTM ski
slalom should do this too (not that that means it isn't fun in any case).

Pete.
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Old February 16th 05, 04:29 PM
Gary S.
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 16:43:12 +0000, Peter Clinch
wrote:

Booker C. Bense wrote:

_ That's how slalom racing originated long ago. After enough
broken shoulders, they started putting bamboo poles up.
Even in the bamboo pole era it wasn't always a great idea
to hit the poles.


Fair enough to avoid the broken shoulders, of course, but I don't see
why you're now allowed to hit them just because they don't bite! In
canoe/kayak slalom you get a time penalty for hitting a gate, so
requiring greater skill to cut the course as fine as possible. ISTM ski
slalom should do this too (not that that means it isn't fun in any case).

You want to set it up like fencing, with the electric scoring to
determine a touch?

Happy trails,
Gary (net.yogi.bear)
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Old February 17th 05, 07:53 AM
Peter Clinch
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Gary S. wrote:

You want to set it up like fencing, with the electric scoring to
determine a touch?


Would depend what level you want to take it at. There's lots of fencing
done without electrical scoring, and I think visuals are all that's used
in paddling slaloms. On a sprung pole it should be reasonably clear if
it's been hit by someone at any sort of speed on skis, at least at a
level that's acceptable outside "Very Serious".

Pete.
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