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On 2005-01-11, Mary Malmros penned:
Monique Y. Mudama wrote: On 2005-01-11, Mary Malmros penned: Right, but if you do it yourself, it gets done the way you want. And if I don't take them to the shop, they won't get done, which is worse than not doing them myself. Believe me. I know myself, and myself right now isn't going to get it done, regardless of good intentions. Really? If you take them to the shop, it will take you more time and hassle than doing it yourself. Really. -- monique Longmont, CO |
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Chester Bullock wrote:
Mary Malmros wrote: Chester Bullock wrote: Mary Malmros wrote: Right, but if you do it yourself, it gets done the way you want. I don't know what angles the shop uses when they sharpen edges, but I know what angle _I_ want. I don't know what they use for wax, either -- I like to pick my own. Prepping your skis really doesn't take that long. Mary - What are you using for an edge file? I am using one I picked up in the 80's, and I think it is time to move on to something else... When I'm just doing maintenance work, I usually use a medium diamond stone. If I've really got to do some serious edits, I start with a mill ******* file. For your edges, or for the bases? If for the edges, do you have some sort of guide you hold the stone or the file in to control your angle? I use stones and files, as noted above, for both the base part of the edge and the side part of the edge. I use a couple of simple tools called Base of Beast and Side of Beast as guides. They're available at Tognar Toolworks. -- Mary Malmros Some days you're the windshield, other days you're the bug. |
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Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
On 2005-01-11, Mary Malmros penned: Monique Y. Mudama wrote: On 2005-01-11, Mary Malmros penned: Right, but if you do it yourself, it gets done the way you want. And if I don't take them to the shop, they won't get done, which is worse than not doing them myself. Believe me. I know myself, and myself right now isn't going to get it done, regardless of good intentions. Really? If you take them to the shop, it will take you more time and hassle than doing it yourself. Really. Your choice, of course, but I'm telling you the truth when I say that taking it to someone else takes more time and effort, at least for routine maintenance. That is, unless the person you're taking it to lives next door, does the work whenever you want them to, and returns the skis so you don't have to go pick them up. -- Mary Malmros Some days you're the windshield, other days you're the bug. |
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On 2005-01-11, Mary Malmros penned:
Your choice, of course, but I'm telling you the truth when I say that taking it to someone else takes more time and effort, at least for routine maintenance. That is, unless the person you're taking it to lives next door, does the work whenever you want them to, and returns the skis so you don't have to go pick them up. I believe you. It's just mentally easier for me to drop the skis off on the way to lunch than it is to do the work at home. The ski shop is close to work, and I run a lot of errands in Boulder, anyway. There's also the time spent learning how to do it, setting up a space somewhere that wax drips don't matter, and the fear of screwing it all up somehow. It may be fast when you know what you're doing, but it takes a while to get to that point and level of confidence. -- monique Longmont, CO |
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Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
There's also the time spent learning how to do it, setting up a space somewhere that wax drips don't matter, and the fear of screwing it all up somehow. It may be fast when you know what you're doing, but it takes a while to get to that point and level of confidence. You only really screw things up when you start using a belt sander as a stone grinder... ---------------------- Chester Why survive when you can live? |
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On 2005-01-11, Chester Bullock penned:
You only really screw things up when you start using a belt sander as a stone grinder... I'm not exactly known for my finesse ... tend to be a brute force kind of gal .... -- monique Longmont, CO |
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Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
On 2005-01-11, Mary Malmros penned: Your choice, of course, but I'm telling you the truth when I say that taking it to someone else takes more time and effort, at least for routine maintenance. That is, unless the person you're taking it to lives next door, does the work whenever you want them to, and returns the skis so you don't have to go pick them up. I believe you. It's just mentally easier for me to drop the skis off on the way to lunch than it is to do the work at home. The ski shop is close to work, and I run a lot of errands in Boulder, anyway. That's cool. It's good having someone who's convenient. There's also the time spent learning how to do it, setting up a space somewhere that wax drips don't matter, and the fear of screwing it all up somehow. It may be fast when you know what you're doing, but it takes a while to get to that point and level of confidence. Yeah, I was lucky -- I had someone with a lot of experience to teach me (my big bro), and he gave me some hand-me-down tools to get me started. Plus I've got a huge basement that doesn't need to accomodate much except for the ski bench and the beermaking stuff. If you ever change your mind, I have a good article that my brother wrote that'll get you started. -- Mary Malmros Some days you're the windshield, other days you're the bug. |
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On 2005-01-12, Mary Malmros penned:
Monique Y. Mudama wrote: There's also the time spent learning how to do it, setting up a space somewhere that wax drips don't matter, and the fear of screwing it all up somehow. It may be fast when you know what you're doing, but it takes a while to get to that point and level of confidence. Yeah, I was lucky -- I had someone with a lot of experience to teach me (my big bro), and he gave me some hand-me-down tools to get me started. Plus I've got a huge basement that doesn't need to accomodate much except for the ski bench and the beermaking stuff. If you ever change your mind, I have a good article that my brother wrote that'll get you started. I would happily accept such an article and file it away! If nothing else, my husband has been talking about doing the tuning himself, to save money. I still think we'd save more money by actually packing our own lunches ... but hey, if it's something he wants to do ... -- monique Longmont, CO |
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"Monique Y. Mudama" wrote:
On 2005-01-11, Mary Malmros penned: Monique Y. Mudama wrote: On 2005-01-11, Mary Malmros penned: Right, but if you do it yourself, it gets done the way you want. And if I don't take them to the shop, they won't get done, which is worse than not doing them myself. Believe me. I know myself, and myself right now isn't going to get it done, regardless of good intentions. Really? If you take them to the shop, it will take you more time and hassle than doing it yourself. Really. Yes. OK, let's start out easy. Waxing. * Get some wax (practice with canning wax [paraffin here in the colonies], it's dirt cheap as are unwanted candles) and steal somebody's old iron (yes, steam is OK). * Clean the crud off the bases however you want -- I have some orange de-greasing goop and a green Scotch-thingy. Let dry. * Fasten the brakes out of the way (broccoli rubber bands are good for this). * Set your iron on 'silk' or 'wool'. * Lay a ski bottoms-up over a couple of chairs or wastebaskets or anything else that will keep them from escaping that you don't care about getting wax on. * Hold the iron over one end of a ski and hold the chunk of wax to the bottom, letting a row of drops drip onto the ski. One every inch or so ought to be OK, using too little makes it hard to move the iron around and too much dribbles onto the top of the ski (or the floor) and looks very un-cool. * Run your iron over the skis until all the wax is melted. Keep the iron moving. * When you figure you've done this long enough (maybe a minute) stop and set the ski aside to harden. * Repeat for the second ski. This is where I stop, but some people scrape the wax off with a metal straightedge of some sort, and some people do other things with scratchy implements. They can take it up here if they want. This takes 15 minutes at most, and saves you lots of driving time to and from the shop. You can wax whenever you want to. If that amount of effort seemed OK, get Seth Masia's book on ski tuning, definitely a worthwhile investment. -- Cheers, Bev ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++ Bil"...so she told me it was either her or the ham radio, over." |
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Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
On 2005-01-12, Mary Malmros penned: Monique Y. Mudama wrote: There's also the time spent learning how to do it, setting up a space somewhere that wax drips don't matter, and the fear of screwing it all up somehow. It may be fast when you know what you're doing, but it takes a while to get to that point and level of confidence. Yeah, I was lucky -- I had someone with a lot of experience to teach me (my big bro), and he gave me some hand-me-down tools to get me started. Plus I've got a huge basement that doesn't need to accomodate much except for the ski bench and the beermaking stuff. If you ever change your mind, I have a good article that my brother wrote that'll get you started. I would happily accept such an article and file it away! If nothing else, my husband has been talking about doing the tuning himself, to save money. I still think we'd save more money by actually packing our own lunches ... but hey, if it's something he wants to do ... You should find a copy of Seth's book. Maybe he still has a couple laying around. I'll find out. ---------------------- Chester A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory. |
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