Why Drop The Corporate Mandate???

On Monday, July 8, 2013 10:53:28 PM UTC-4, comadrejo wrote:
On 2013-07-09 02:37:12 +0000, Dave Stallard said:



This seems to me more like a manslaughter case than Murder Two.

I do think it is a second degree murder case, mainly that Zimmerman
was so reckless in his intent, that he created a situation that led to
Trayvon Martin's death.

But the predicate for murder isn't recklessness, it's malice, and they have to prove that.

Also Zimmerman's life wasn't threatened, nor
he had wounds that showed that he was seriously injured. He was
getting beaten up, but that doesn't equate in using his firearm.

Homicide through use of excessive force in self-defense is voluntary manslaughter.

Dave

Dave Stallard wrote:
On Monday, July 8, 2013 10:53:28 PM UTC-4, comadrejo wrote:
On 2013-07-09 02:37:12 +0000, Dave Stallard said:



This seems to me more like a manslaughter case than Murder Two.

I do think it is a second degree murder case, mainly that Zimmerman
was so reckless in his intent, that he created a situation that led to
Trayvon Martin's death.

But the predicate for murder isn't recklessness, it's malice, and they have to prove that.

Also Zimmerman's life wasn't threatened, nor
he had wounds that showed that he was seriously injured. He was
getting beaten up, but that doesn't equate in using his firearm.

Homicide through use of excessive force in self-defense is voluntary manslaughter.

Dave

The recklessness was so overwhelming that it could be looked on as
malicious. (Much like those who drive drunk and kill people with suspended
licenses, are charge with second degree murder, because their recklessness
went beyond manslaughter) Zimmerman's recklessness made it into a lethal
situation, even though he was told by the 911 operator to stop following
Trayvon, From the walkthrough the day after the murder, it was shown that
Zimmerman was lying his ass off about his location to the 911 operator
about his whereabouts, he was much closer to Trayvon than he was telling
the operator, actually he was following him pretty closely and was out of
his truck. .

The murder wasn't self defense. Self Defense or "Stand Your Ground" law
has been been interpreted by State Supreme Courts, as using lethal force in
cornered situation with no other options and one's life is in grave danger.
Zimmerman was losing a fight. He may felt his life was in danger, but it
wasn't. If he got a couple staples in his head to get a skull fracture put
in place and numerous stitches, he would had a better argument. Instead he
had superficial wounds of someone who was losing a fight. He didn't need
medical attention to address his wounds. Facial Wounds and Zimmerman
facial wounds may look bad at first, but many facial wounds will look much
worse than they really are, because the amount of blood going to face and
head.

Zimmerman's lying on the 911 recording, wasn't exploited enough by the
prosecution to show that Zimmerman was lying to hide his intent of going
after Martin, his lying was part of the recklessness that put him in a
situation that he got into a fight with a 17 year old walking home from a
convenience store.

On 07/09/2013 01:10 PM, wrote:
wrote this crap:
On 07/09/2013 02:54 AM, wrote:

A month ago I went to see a doctor and the check up included an eye
test. The nurse asked me to read the lowest line I could. It was a
standard eye chart so I said I could read the letters above a colored
line. So I read off DEFPOTEC, which I had memorized. Then I said I
could probably read the line below that, which I did. So I have 20/15
vision. Although I do admit that sometimes I put on a cheap pair of
reading glasses for reading the fine print in the newspaper.

My friend reads the copyright notice on the bottom of the chart :-(

Well...well...I, um, read the union label below that. So there!

So you always follow the instructions of the International Ladies
Garment Workers Union even when NOT buying a coat, dress or blouse?
Rather odd...

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Cheers, Bev
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