Mpeg Races hit the end of the road?

I don't know anybody that have a 100mbit line and a storagecapacity
around 100gig laying around except the University for an acceptable
amount of money, do you?

When does it officially end? I'll think about this and see if I can come
up with an alternative. Do you have copies of all the files or will the
university allow you to keep the files for the time being?

What would it take to keep this going??? Someone to offer to oversee
the hosting of the files and some $$$ to pay for the hosting and
bandwidth? I assume that JG would be willing to keep making the divx
files if he had a place to send them to.

I don't know jack-doodly-doo about what it would take to do the
hosting, but I would be willing to ante up some $ if someone wanted to
spearhead the effort.....

bt

That kind of disk space (100gig) is very expensive at any pay for use
ISP. I checked with my ISP and it would cost a $300 per year for just
1 gig of extra space. Now you see what he value of this service really
was when you try to replace it.

sknyski wrote:
What would it take to keep this going??? Someone to offer to oversee
the hosting of the files and some $$$ to pay for the hosting and
bandwidth? I assume that JG would be willing to keep making the divx
files if he had a place to send them to.

I don't know jack-doodly-doo about what it would take to do the
hosting, but I would be willing to ante up some $ if someone wanted to
spearhead the effort.....

bt

Hi Janne,

First: Thanks for all the video. For those of us (USA) without access to
*anything* XC (ok, except for a handfull of 1 hour, biathlon shows on OLN)
your captures have been fantastic.

2nd: I assume you mean both the http and ftp access have hit the end of the
road. True?

3rd: if someone else (not me) were to contemplate taking over the task, how
big a pipe would that person need? How many Gbytes/day were you
transferring?

Thanks again,
Bob


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Hi all

At last the computer department have got to me with a request of closing
the web server down, so it seams to be the end of the road for the video
webserver in this form at least.
At least it don't happend in the middle of the season at least...

Sorry to inform you all about this.

Janne G

I imagine that the storage itself is pretty cheap (I just bought a
200gb drive at fry's for under $100) but the pipe that you would need
would break you financially.....

bt

The problem is, you can only take advantage of this cheapness if you already
own a co-located server. Most ISP-owned servers have 100 - 200 GB drives.
Having spent about 10 minutes looking, I see that one could rent a dedicated
server with 120 GB disk and 1000 GB monthly bandwidth for $150 a month.
That's $1800 a year.

Is there enough interest to subsidize this kind of investment? I do think
there could be 100 potential subscribers out there at $18 a year (or even 50
at $36 a year, though that's starting to get expensive), but with that many
users, we might start running into the 1000 GB monthly limit. For
comparison, 200 GB disk and 2000 GB bandwidth per month from the same
provider is $3000 a year.

Another option is to build out a server ourselves, which could run about
$1000 - $1500 for what we need (single proc, 250 gb disk, fairly cheap
processor) and then co-locate it with some provider. I don't know what the
monthly fees run for co-location yet.

-Sergei

"sknyski" wrote in message
oups.com...
I imagine that the storage itself is pretty cheap (I just bought a
200gb drive at fry's for under $100) but the pipe that you would need
would break you financially.....

bt

On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:57:11 -0700, "xsergei"
wrote:

The problem is, you can only take advantage of this cheapness if you already
own a co-located server. Most ISP-owned servers have 100 - 200 GB drives.
Having spent about 10 minutes looking, I see that one could rent a dedicated
server with 120 GB disk and 1000 GB monthly bandwidth for $150 a month.
That's $1800 a year.

Is there enough interest to subsidize this kind of investment? I do think
there could be 100 potential subscribers out there at $18 a year (or even 50
at $36 a year, though that's starting to get expensive), but with that many
users, we might start running into the 1000 GB monthly limit. For
comparison, 200 GB disk and 2000 GB bandwidth per month from the same
provider is $3000 a year.

Another option is to build out a server ourselves, which could run about
$1000 - $1500 for what we need (single proc, 250 gb disk, fairly cheap
processor) and then co-locate it with some provider. I don't know what the
monthly fees run for co-location yet.


The management issues are not trivial, but if anyone does it I'm in as
a passive contributor/user for up to $50/year.

JFT




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Yeah, the server could be way under $1,000 (p4, 2 * 200gb HDD, 1gb ram,
linux) but it's the bandwidth that would kill you.

The subscription idea is a good one, but I bet you'd see interest dry
up if there was money involved. Plus, Eurosport might not be too happy
about someone charging others to view pirated copies of their shows.

Basically, someone has to do it for free, or it won't work. RIP.

bt

John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
The management issues are not trivial, but if anyone does it I'm in as
a passive contributor/user for up to $50/year.

Forget about doing a shared payment setup:

As soon as money gets involved, you can be quite certain that the actual
copyright holders (EuroSport and/or NRK) would be interested.

After all, you can already buy access to all NRKs old broadcasts, at a
not unsignifcant cost/view. :-(

The only (main?) reason this has survived until now is that Norway (and
Sweden until last week or so?) allows private copying of all
transmissions, records, videos etc, but only for private use, and
probably no retransmission and definitely no form of payment.

Terje

--
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"almost all programming can be viewed as an exercise in caching"

My information via private channels is that everyone should hang tight
for now.

Gene

sknyski wrote:

Yeah, the server could be way under $1,000 (p4, 2 * 200gb HDD, 1gb ram,
linux) but it's the bandwidth that would kill you.

The subscription idea is a good one, but I bet you'd see interest dry
up if there was money involved. Plus, Eurosport might not be too happy
about someone charging others to view pirated copies of their shows.

Basically, someone has to do it for free, or it won't work. RIP.

bt