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Have skis got longer again?
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 22:00:56 +0000, Michael Chare
mUNDERSCOREnews@chareDOTorgDOTuk wrote: Just anything narrow is a problem! One difficulty is that paths that are not to narrow in the morning get rucked up at the edges - making them much narrower. True enough. There's a track in Flaine that's not particularly steep that leads to the Styx run (Access Gers) that I generally take pretty carefully: there's a steep-ish drop on the left and a bank on the right. It gets glazed and slightly bumpy if the snow's a bit scarce, and it's easy to build up speed if you're not careful, and then it's hard to stop. Worse if a group sees the steeper (but wider) bit at the track end and decides to stop on the track... -- Pip |
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Have skis got longer again?
"Ace" wrote in message ... On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:25:52 -0000, "Paul S" news_AT_ghweb_DOT_me_DOT_uk wrote: "Ace" wrote in message . .. My first skis, in ~1994, were 205s. Seems incredible, but there really was a general belief that longer was better, although very few people So rule of thumb when I learnt to ski was the type should reach your nose - what do you reckon it should be now - shoulder? There's no rule of thumb based on height, but on what sort of skier and skiing you are doing. A beginner should start with nothing longer thatn around 160cm, otherwise it's just making everything moer difficult for them. Hardcore freeride skiing would want something closer to 2m, unless you're particularly small, so some women's freeride skis do come as low as 180cm. Racers will use the shortest ski they can for Slalom (which had its rules changed to stop them getting too short) and something in the 190cm range for GS and Downhill. Again, not dependent on height like it used to be (thought to be). I was interested specifically about someone learning now - I shall be skiing with a newbie this year and was wondering what the current thinking was about ski length for a person of normal weight. -- Paul S |
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Have skis got longer again?
Paul S news_AT_ghweb_DOT_me_DOT_uk wrote:
I shall be skiing with a newbie this year and was wondering what the current thinking was about ski length for a person of normal weight. Sucks in tummy Normal for what? -- Honda CB400 Four x2 Triumph Street Triple Ducati 800SS Yamaha 660 Tenere Suzuki GN250, TS250ER x2 So many bikes, so little garage space.... chateau dot murray at idnet dot com |
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Have skis got longer again?
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 17:16:47 +0000,
(The Older Gentleman) wrote: Paul S news_AT_ghweb_DOT_me_DOT_uk wrote: I shall be skiing with a newbie this year and was wondering what the current thinking was about ski length for a person of normal weight. Sucks in tummy Normal for what? Norfolk? -- Ace Ski Club of Great Britain http://www.skiclub.co.uk/ All opinions expressed are those of the poster and in no way reflect those of the Ski Club or its members |
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Have skis got longer again?
Ace wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 17:16:47 +0000, (The Older Gentleman) wrote: Paul S news_AT_ghweb_DOT_me_DOT_uk wrote: I shall be skiing with a newbie this year and was wondering what the current thinking was about ski length for a person of normal weight. Sucks in tummy Normal for what? Norfolk? Gimme six! -- Honda CB400 Four x2 Triumph Street Triple Ducati 800SS Yamaha 660 Tenere Suzuki GN250, TS250ER x2 So many bikes, so little garage space.... chateau dot murray at idnet dot com |
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Ace wrote:
As it happens, this was about the period when things were changing, and so my next few skis went down through dtages of 203, 198, 195, 188, 183, 177, then back to 192 (my Salomon Czar fat long rocker off-piste skis), as my skiing improved. When I teach now most beginners are on 160 or shorter, and the progress we can make is incredible. Of course, it could just be down to my skills as a teacher... My theory: To sell skis you have to sell a product which is 'new' and 'different'. Therefore what you need is fashion. This sells more skis. The amount of upturn at the front of the ski was quite high in the 1960s but as pisting improved, this height gradually reduced. You did not need it as much. But that is, likely, the only evolutionary change. Can some one keep any eye out for me for a pair of mid-1990s era K2 Explorer. These are the one pair of skis I regret never putting in line-up. |
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Have skis got longer again?
Ace wrote:
On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:48:55 +0000, (The Older Gentleman) wrote: Ace wrote: My first skis, in ~1994, were 205s. Seems incredible, but there really was a general belief that longer was better, although very few people could demonstrate why that should be the case, except at racer level. Back in the day, when wooden skis demonstrated a remarkable coefficient of friction, you needed long skis if you wanted to move at all. I guess. But there you're talking about pre metal-edged ones, so 1920s and earlier, I'd have thought. And I know you may remember them, but I don't ;-) My 1940s era wooden skis have no metal edge. When and where metal edges came in I could not say for certain, but probably mid 1950s |
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