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Fritschi Freeride Problem
Hi,
I bought a pair of skis with the fritschi freeride and got the bindings store mounted. After 3-4 days of skiing i noticed that I can "wiggle" the bindings a a little laterally within the rear locking mechanism. Is this normal, or are the bindings mounted wrong? Regards, Calvin Scorse |
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In article .com, wrote: Hi, I bought a pair of skis with the fritschi freeride and got the bindings store mounted. After 3-4 days of skiing i noticed that I can "wiggle" the bindings a a little laterally within the rear locking mechanism. Is this normal, or are the bindings mounted wrong? _ I'm just guessing, but I suspect it's "normal". It really depends what you mean by a "little", A centimeter is way too much, but a few mm is par for the course with AT bindings. _ Take a look at the lateral stiffness tests at www.wildsnow.com and see how your binding matches those. http://www.wildsnow.com/backcountry-...-017-flex.html _ Booker C. Bense -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBRNeu+mTWTAjn5N/lAQGeswP7BfSv/A5KQnmVMJuZ6z/OXd3uJVMkIpRo Wl7JR361cs+B0Hg/39uTg4DdV4/sB+kIIwrDuC+OpOh26in9Jci2emBAYXEFWVZ4 oAeFx7PQ/x4GOAwTLm9LoqosLoBcc7k/D1m3ccYaS1MrUpszdmQEHjJjHJcU3mZd Uxz/ur58jv0= =/ngn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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Ahh, great link. But here is a question. It looks like the Dynafit is the stiffest, but is there any concievable disadvantage to this? I mean, if its that much stiffer than even the alpine binding they tested, it begs the question; how stiff is too stiff? (insert Viagra joke here) Or is the Marker just a relatively loose binding, compared to other Alpine bindings? Any thoughts? I bought a pair of Dynafit Comforts end of last season, but have yet to mount them. Quite excited about them, though. -s- "Booker C. Bense" bbense+rec.skiing.backcountry.Aug.07.06@telemark. slac.stanford.edu wrote in message ... _ Take a look at the lateral stiffness tests at www.wildsnow.com and see how your binding matches those. http://www.wildsnow.com/backcountry-...-017-flex.html _ Booker C. Bense |
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In article R7_Gg.12380$Nz6.8180@edtnps82, Simon Isbister wrote: Ahh, great link. But here is a question. It looks like the Dynafit is the stiffest, but is there any concievable disadvantage to this? I mean, if its that much stiffer than even the alpine binding they tested, it begs the question; how stiff is too stiff? (insert Viagra joke here) Or is the Marker just a relatively loose binding, compared to other Alpine bindings? Any thoughts? I bought a pair of Dynafit Comforts end of last season, but have yet to mount them. Quite excited about them, though. To me it shows that stiffness in a binding[1] is not as critical to turning as you might think. You turn skis by bending them, you bend them the most by weighting them, not edging them. Edging is for initiating the turn and since the forces are relatively light at that stage, the stiffness isn't that crucial at the speed most skiers are skiing. _ Booker C. Bense [1] Or boots for that matter. As long as my techinque and strength hold out, I can ski as well in very soft AT boots as my stiffer downhill boots. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBROy78WTWTAjn5N/lAQFuDAP+McRemGAfkoaetUwqhSK3tbV/LsfhP+7F AMqKLFGLyUcm2w7r6bO85E9h4iB/5W/OGxQAHA1v+afN1QCnNGWa/slUXJt0xj7Z OX9WpVinL/+sqOUw4QohDU34QCnaW3cVmn4BoJD8yyrE3+JKobjqAytlRCIL 4xQr wTK9DaFtbSg= =7Xku -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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Booker C. Bense wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In article R7_Gg.12380$Nz6.8180@edtnps82, Simon Isbister wrote: Ahh, great link. But here is a question. It looks like the Dynafit is the stiffest, but is there any concievable disadvantage to this? I mean, if its that much stiffer than even the alpine binding they tested, it begs the question; how stiff is too stiff? (insert Viagra joke here) Or is the Marker just a relatively loose binding, compared to other Alpine bindings? Any thoughts? I bought a pair of Dynafit Comforts end of last season, but have yet to mount them. Quite excited about them, though. To me it shows that stiffness in a binding[1] is not as critical to turning as you might think. You turn skis by bending them, you bend them the most by weighting them, not edging them. Edging is for initiating the turn and since the forces are relatively light at that stage, the stiffness isn't that crucial at the speed most skiers are skiing. _ Booker C. Bense [1] Or boots for that matter. As long as my techinque and strength hold out, I can ski as well in very soft AT boots as my stiffer downhill boots. Me too, except... After several days on my alpine boots and I go back to my AT boots on conditions which aren't exactly friendly, I'm all over the place. My AT boots are Lowa Structura 3 buckle and my Alpine boots are Dalbello Krypton (the latter are VERRY nice BTW) |
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Booker C. Bense wrote
it shows that stiffness in a binding is not as critical to turning as you might think. Our ankle joints and lower legs muscles have lots of "give" and "elasticity" anyway -- so it's not like a perfectly stiff binding would make the overall system into rigid transmission of turning torques. As long as my techinque and strength hold out, I can ski as well in very soft AT boots as my stiffer downhill boots. Good for you. My experience is that I ski significantly better and with more fun in my Scarpa Lasers than my Scarpa F1 boots. Ken |
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"Ken Roberts" wrote in message ... Booker C. Bense wrote it shows that stiffness in a binding is not as critical to turning as you might think. Our ankle joints and lower legs muscles have lots of "give" and "elasticity" anyway -- so it's not like a perfectly stiff binding would make the overall system into rigid transmission of turning torques. As long as my techinque and strength hold out, I can ski as well in very soft AT boots as my stiffer downhill boots. Good for you. My experience is that I ski significantly better and with more fun in my Scarpa Lasers than my Scarpa F1 boots. Yes, but I draw the line at my Scarpa Vegas (Or Invernos, depending on which side of the border you sit). Lace-up mountaineering boots just don't quite cut it, even though it is conventient to just wear them for ice climbing, and the ski in/out. Definetely not a very confident descent, though. -s- |
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In article , Ken Roberts wrote: Booker C. Bense wrote it shows that stiffness in a binding is not as critical to turning as you might think. Our ankle joints and lower legs muscles have lots of "give" and "elasticity" anyway -- so it's not like a perfectly stiff binding would make the overall system into rigid transmission of turning torques. As long as my techinque and strength hold out, I can ski as well in very soft AT boots as my stiffer downhill boots. Good for you. My experience is that I ski significantly better and with more fun in my Scarpa Lasers than my Scarpa F1 boots. I didn't say it was as much fun, but for the most part stiff boots[1] aren't "REQUIRED" to ski well, they just make it easier. I can even make decent turns in my leather mountaineering boots, just not as many or with much margin for error. Skiing in soft boots makes you a better skier. After all isn't one of the most common drills out there skiing with your boots unbuckled. I guess the point I was vaguely trying to make is that while stiffness is nice in a boot or binding, it's not the only thing to be looking at for AT gear or even one of the most important. _ Booker C. Bense [1]_ I would put Lasers in the "soft" category compared to pretty much any alpine boot and a lot of AT boots these days. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBRO47hmTWTAjn5N/lAQFb4QQAiiahl40Z7G0Gj0gAtMUu7kRLtef6jOyU a9zbO5OlwRCgmjMfKUTSPI0br2Q0AJBQsYj4Z8me3Wd/xhcplVWMOIIu4frshe8P oJDCdNoy8OAb9XZykwVZLhAUvVErqfTCbmXsKTspYar/FSuL3fZVhWJHYXVP2AF6 rtO/W1TfuCU= =14I/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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In article OM5Hg.17896$tP4.62@clgrps12, Simon Isbister wrote: Yes, but I draw the line at my Scarpa Vegas (Or Invernos, depending on which side of the border you sit). Lace-up mountaineering boots just don't quite cut it, even though it is conventient to just wear them for ice climbing, and the ski in/out. Definetely not a very confident descent, though. If you get shorter skis, it's a lot more managable. I have a lot of fun with Alpina Xterrains in a 155cm length and my leather mountain boots. They do have a pretty stiff learning curve in the beginning though... I found looking at old ski movies from the '30's and '40's very helpful in getting a handle on the style required. _ Booker C. Bense -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBRO49FWTWTAjn5N/lAQHd4wP+JW8sT9TuGznZbh6fzeuATB7CRxbzfBzO 64KwP3BnMIMTf69LkVIcq15UBE5aZlYvyMwXRbfL9Jt3ctJb+4 cnjQ9Vohn7E2wE fw/rcW/HoZDUHw70d9mPxDpMvFZeZIYweG0mbpiV9KVzCF7n7YbrvqW9l TGrZZTV HP+27HNdAU8= =7/uo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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