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Ski crampons
I recently decided that I "must" try ski crampons next winter.
Not that I'd really need them, but I'm really curious on trying the stuff out on some steeper icy/hard packed stuff. Anyway, the only crampons I could find that would seem to fit skis with generic cable bindings, rather than some gimmicky AT bindings, were the ones by Skalp: http://www.telemark-pyrenees.com/sho...roducts_id=623 Are there others? Any comments on the Skalps? The price is pretty steep, but I decided to get a pair anyway. Btw, the new 'Diamir Axion' crampons seem pretty cool, as switching them on and off should be very easy. Any experiences of those? Not that it'd be of practical relevance to me, as those require specific bindings that I wouldn't use anyway. http://www.fritschi.ch/english/inhalt/axion.html |
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Hi
MB wrote: I recently decided that I "must" try ski crampons next winter. Not that I'd really need them, but I'm really curious on trying the stuff out on some steeper icy/hard packed stuff. Anyway, the only crampons I could find that would seem to fit skis with generic cable bindings, rather than some gimmicky AT bindings, were the ones by Skalp: http://www.telemark-pyrenees.com/sho...roducts_id=623 Are there others? Check http://telemark-easygo.com/ This is the base frame of the Silvretta 500-series binding, on which you can mount most available telemark binding. - Walking is much(!) easier, - Much(!) better heel lifts, - With Telemark boots the mounting of the crampons is even possible without getting out of the binding. The tele adapter is as expensive as a binding itself, but I never want to miss it again (Uli Hausmann will confirm this soon ;-) ). Florian |
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Am Dienstag, den 25.04.2006, 07:48 +0000 schrieb MB:
I recently decided that I "must" try ski crampons next winter. Not that I'd really need them, but I'm really curious on trying the stuff out on some steeper icy/hard packed stuff. Anyway, the only crampons I could find that would seem to fit skis with generic cable bindings, rather than some gimmicky AT bindings, were the ones by Skalp: http://www.telemark-pyrenees.com/sho...roducts_id=623 Are there others? Any comments on the Skalps? The price is pretty steep, but I decided to get a pair anyway. Btw, the new 'Diamir Axion' crampons seem pretty cool, as switching them on and off should be very easy. Any experiences of those? Not that it'd be of practical relevance to me, as those require specific bindings that I wouldn't use anyway. http://www.fritschi.ch/english/inhalt/axion.html I confirm what Florian Anwander said. But now, there are in the market also other solutions like the new G3 touring binding (which also has a resistance free articulation. With those (and also those using 3-pin solutions) you always could use the Dynafit crampon. See he http://www.dynafit.at/accessories_bi...63e9fdd359d1ff Greetings, Ulrich |
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[ Ulrich Hausmann ]
But now, there are in the market also other solutions like the new G3 touring binding (which also has a resistance free articulation. With I just looked at this, and it seems to me that there's plenty of places for snow to clog. I'd think that with the right (or rather wrong) snow conditions this will be problematic to operate at all, let alone with the pole. Martin -- "An ideal world is left as an exercise to the reader." -Paul Graham, On Lisp |
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In article , *@*.* wrote:
Are there others? Any comments on the Skalps? B & D Ski Gear: bndskigear.com cheers, john |
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Florian Anwander
Check http://telemark-easygo.com/ This is the base frame of the Silvretta 500-series binding, on which you can mount most available telemark binding. Well, yes. In my case, however, I won't be using the crampons with tele bindings at all, but with common backcountry cable bindings typically used with utility, forest and military skis: http://www.kuusamonuistin.fi/talvika...p_Era_side.jpg Ie skis and bindings that are, afaik, rarely, if ever, used with carmpons (until I get mine, that is.... The advantage of the Skalps is that they have a simple attachement to the ski itself, rather than the binding. Otoh, not all bindings fit onto skis equiped with these, eg the Silverettas won't. The obvious disadvantage with the Skalps is that the crampons are fixed, rather than pivoting, and thus they won't lift out of the way with the heel when stepping forward. I think that this isn't a big deal for me though, as I'm planning to use the carmpons for relatively short distance steep climbs on fjells, and climbs shorter still, but exceptionally difficult, in forest. Ie, nothing like "real" ski-mountaineering. Btw, I'm slightly suspicious on how well the Skalps will stay in place on very hard surfaces, but, of course, I will find out by trying. John Red-Horse: : B & D Ski Gear: bndskigear.com These are most interesting. Like the Skalps, they have a simple attachment to the ski, but unlike the former, they will pivot. I'm not sure whether the B&D's will work well with other than hard-soled tele boots though, as the 'pressure assembly'. |
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: B & D Ski Gear: bndskigear.com These are most interesting. Like the Skalps, they have a simple attachment to the ski, but unlike the former, they will pivot. I have to admit, that I don't give the attachment a very long period of living. I fear the small 'ligament' might bend and shear off quite soon if the crampon is forced sidewards. If you have to cross mixed areas this may happen quite soon. Example: Look at this pictu http://fa.utfs.org/mountains/2006/03...s/IMG_5462.jpg The snow looks easier than it was. It was a hard wind pressed crust mixed with rocks. Most of us added crampons around one minute after this picture. One had the Dynafit TLT binding with the crampon Uli suggested, and which is very similar to the B&D. The fixing of the crampon broke after 20 meters in this terrain. Florian |
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Florian Anwander
One had the Dynafit TLT binding with the crampon Uli suggested, and which is very similar to the B&D. The fixing of the crampon broke after 20 meters in this terrain. It seems there's a problem with Dynafit crampons: http://www.telemarkskier.com/cgi-bin...c;f=1;t=001274 |
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Am Mittwoch, den 26.04.2006, 09:07 +0000 schrieb MB:
Well, yes. In my case, however, I won't be using the crampons with tele bindings at all, but with common backcountry cable bindings typically used with utility, forest and military skis: http://www.kuusamonuistin.fi/talvika...p_Era_side.jpg Ie skis and bindings that are, afaik, rarely, if ever, used with carmpons (until I get mine, that is.... Then, your best bet is: http://telemark.iuveno-net.de/tf/mag...ic_harscheisen (I used it with Rottefella Riva, which seems similar to the bindings in your pic). Greetings, Ulrich ------------ And now a word from our sponsor --------------------- For a secure high performance FTP using SSL/TLS encryption upgrade to SurgeFTP ---- See http://netwinsite.com/sponsor/sponsor_surgeftp.htm ---- |
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Ulrich Hausmann
Then, your best bet is: http://telemark.iuveno-net.de/tf/mag...ic_harscheisen Thanks My German is a bit weak, so I can't really figure out for sure how these are attached to the skis/bindings. Simply using the pins of 3 pin and held in place by the boot toe? In my case this wouldn't work, as my cable bindings aren't 3 pin. Instead, the're much like Rottefellas NATO 100 bindings. Anyway, I just received a pair of Skalp crampons. It seems that they'll fit my skis/bindings nicely. For me the fact that the Skalps don't utilize the bindings at all for attachment is a definite advantage. |
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