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Old October 22nd 06, 03:07 AM posted to rec.skiing.nordic
David Snyder
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Default DP on skate rollerskis with classic poles?

I use Marwe 610's for skate rollerskiing, and really like the way they
handle the rough roads around here. I have some classic roller skis with a
metal frame that get bounced around like crazy. Hence, I want to do classic
DP training on my skate rollerskis. In other words, use my classic poles
for DP-only workouts on the skate skis. As I see it, for DP training, the
ski doesn't really matter at all (except for a very slight difference in
height with my particular skis). Obviously the boots are different, but for
doing DP, how big a deal is that? Please let me know if I'm doing something
that will ruin my technique, etc. Seems like for building fitness this
should work fine. Thanks for any thoughts!

David


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Old October 22nd 06, 04:56 AM posted to rec.skiing.nordic
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Default DP on skate rollerskis with classic poles?

Obviously the boots are different, but for
doing DP, how big a deal is that? Please let me know if I'm doing something
that will ruin my technique, etc. Seems like for building fitness this
should work fine. Thanks for any thoughts!


double poling with skating rollerskis should be totally OK.

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Old October 22nd 06, 09:51 AM posted to rec.skiing.nordic
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Default DP on skate rollerskis with classic poles?

If anything the Marwes are too smooth and too close to on snow glide.
Perhaps there is some way to slow them down to give you more of that 'workout' sensation.
I've heard of heavy grease or brass washers being used for this purpose.
Its such a relief to then go back to a free glide and not have to force your way forward with each push.
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Old October 22nd 06, 09:59 AM posted to rec.skiing.nordic
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Default DP on skate rollerskis with classic poles?

I'd suggest you trial the skate poles too. Remember you are higher off the surface.
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Old October 22nd 06, 12:12 PM posted to rec.skiing.nordic
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Default DP on skate rollerskis with classic poles?

We do it regularly on 610s (or others) under the guidance of a national
coach, who does it himself on 610s. It helps develop longer hill
climbing. Consider alternating it with runs of legs only and maybe
V2, depending on the intensity level you're looking for. Single sticking
uphill with skate poles is also good, usually for shorter distances
(~1.5 mins). The main thing technically is to maintain good dp form,
i.e., elbows out/hands in (be compact), ankle flex throughout the
cycle, and really get down into those legs.

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"David Snyder" wrote:

I use Marwe 610's for skate rollerskiing, and really like the way they
handle the rough roads around here. I have some classic roller skis with a
metal frame that get bounced around like crazy. Hence, I want to do classic
DP training on my skate rollerskis. In other words, use my classic poles
for DP-only workouts on the skate skis. As I see it, for DP training, the
ski doesn't really matter at all (except for a very slight difference in
height with my particular skis). Obviously the boots are different, but for
doing DP, how big a deal is that? Please let me know if I'm doing something
that will ruin my technique, etc. Seems like for building fitness this
should work fine. Thanks for any thoughts!

David


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Old October 23rd 06, 12:38 AM posted to rec.skiing.nordic
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Default DP on skate rollerskis with classic poles?

We do it regularly on 610s (or others) under the guidance of a national
coach, who does it himself on 610s. It helps develop longer hill
climbing. Consider alternating it with runs of legs only


Good point on double-pole and leg-only workouts. When skiing with my
wife I do those, to match the speed, and for 3 years straight 75% of
skate skiing I was doiing was double-pole and leg-only. Not very
exciting (skiing-wise, not relationship-wise), but my racing times have
improved by ~5-10%.

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Old October 24th 06, 02:59 PM posted to rec.skiing.nordic
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Default DP on skate rollerskis with classic poles?

I second this too:
dardruba skrev:
I'd suggest you trial the skate poles too. Remember you are higher off the surface.



also, if you DP alot with too short poles you have a higher risk of
messing up your lower back and end up as a PlayStation skier

 




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