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Wanna do a 14ner this New Years Eve or Da
I would like very much to join a team that is planning to do a 14ner
this New Year's Eve or Day. I have done 17 14ners so far, but they have all been summer ascents. I have done some bigger mountains(Pico de Orizaba(18,700 feet), Mexico; Chopicalqui(20,828 feet), Peru) that required snow and ice work. I am also an avid 5.9-5.10 sport climber. I have read of epic climbs of the Diamond on Long's New Year's Day. That is NOT what I am looking for. I'm thinking something relatively easy and safe, like Quandry or Shavano(hopefully something I haven't already done). I have most of the equipment I need, including a Walrus Expedition tent, snow shovel, ice axe, plastic boots, crampons, etc. I lack snow shoes, skiis, and a zero degree fahrenheit bag. I am hoping we won't need avalanche beacons 'cause the route will be so safe. If you have a team or want to form one, please contact me. Thanks, Ken Reed paka.reed@p... |
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Wanna do a 14ner this New Years Eve or Da
Sell the tent, boots and crampons and get an
avalanch beacon. Make sure your partners do the same. Besides that, get the Avalung, and the inflatable ballon backpack thing. Failing those last two, at least get a probe as well. There's only *one* thing you *really* need, and that's a beacon. The other things you really need are a probe and a shovel. Clothes are but a luxury. "Ken Reed" wrote in message om... I would like very much to join a team that is planning to do a 14ner this New Year's Eve or Day. I have done 17 14ners so far, but they have all been summer ascents. I have done some bigger mountains(Pico de Orizaba(18,700 feet), Mexico; Chopicalqui(20,828 feet), Peru) that required snow and ice work. I am also an avid 5.9-5.10 sport climber. I have read of epic climbs of the Diamond on Long's New Year's Day. That is NOT what I am looking for. I'm thinking something relatively easy and safe, like Quandry or Shavano(hopefully something I haven't already done). I have most of the equipment I need, including a Walrus Expedition tent, snow shovel, ice axe, plastic boots, crampons, etc. I lack snow shoes, skiis, and a zero degree fahrenheit bag. I am hoping we won't need avalanche beacons 'cause the route will be so safe. If you have a team or want to form one, please contact me. Thanks, Ken Reed paka.reed@p... |
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Wanna do a 14ner this New Years Eve or Da
foot2foot wrote:
There's only *one* thing you *really* need, and that's a beacon. The other things you really need are a probe and a shovel. Clothes are but a luxury. I disagree. The one thing you really need is to not get caught in an avalanche in the first place. You didn't say where you wanted to climb, but in WA you significantly up your danger if you decide you are going to climb on some random particular winter day, regardless of weather considerations. If you can't pick and choose the safer days, your risk goes up. -Mike (wondering if it is legal to "do a 14ner", or does that vary state by state?) |
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Wanna do a 14ner this New Years Eve or Da
Ken Reed wrote:
I would like very much to join a team that is planning to do a 14ner this New Year's Eve or Day. I have done 17 14ners so far, but they have all been summer ascents. I have done some bigger mountains(Pico de Orizaba(18,700 feet), Mexico; Chopicalqui(20,828 feet), Peru) that required snow and ice work. I am also an avid 5.9-5.10 sport climber. I have read of epic climbs of the Diamond on Long's New Year's Day. That is NOT what I am looking for. I'm thinking something relatively easy and safe, like Quandry or Shavano(hopefully something I haven't already done). I have most of the equipment I need, including a Walrus Expedition tent, snow shovel, ice axe, plastic boots, crampons, etc. I lack snow shoes, skiis, and a zero degree fahrenheit bag. I am hoping we won't need avalanche beacons 'cause the route will be so safe. If you have a team or want to form one, please contact me. I doubt anyone would team for winter mountaineering until you get and know how to use a beacon; and have basic avi prediction, search, and rescue skills. Soooo, first things first. (BTW, you any relation to THE Ken Read? - if you have to ask here in an alpine skiing group, you aren't.) |
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Wanna do a 14ner this New Years Eve or Da
"foot2foot" wrote in message
... Sell the tent, boots and crampons and get an avalanch beacon. Make sure your partners do the same. Besides that, get the Avalung, and the inflatable ballon backpack thing. Failing those last two, at least get a probe as well. There's only *one* thing you *really* need, and that's a beacon. The other things you really need are a probe and a shovel. Clothes are but a luxury. Sounds like someone is planning on gettin' caught by an avalanche.Try thinking first, then worry about the gear. If you choose the right route on the right mountain on the right day and are willing to turn back or lower you goals for the day, there is no need for a beacon. Avalanche avoidance is job one. If you are looking to carve some turns - get a beacon - shovel - probe - avalung and that balloon thing - because it is not a matter of IF but WHEN. There are plenty of 14'ers in Colorado that you can climb safely without any of that other stuff - as long as you don't leave your brain at the trailhead. J |
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Wanna do a 14ner this New Years Eve or Da
foot2foot wrote:
Sell the tent, boots and crampons and get an avalanch beacon. Make sure your partners do the same. Besides that, get the Avalung, and the inflatable ballon backpack thing. Failing those last two, at least get a probe as well. There's only *one* thing you *really* need, and that's a beacon. The other things you really need are a probe and a shovel. Clothes are but a luxury. Whoa, let's slow down a little here. An avy beacon is useless if 1) your partner doesn't have one (and is proficient using it), and 2) your beacon-proficient partner doesn't have a shovel. The probe is a close third, but again, if your partner doesn't have a shovel, the probe won't be much good - except maybe as a marker for the body-recovery crew. The avalung and inflatable balloon backpack thing are debatable items. Hey, how about an avy-rescue dog? Those are handy. But let's back up a little for OP Ken. The partners/beacons/shovels/probes kit (and practice) could be a good idea if the approach covers or passes under ground that exceeds 20 degrees in slope. I'm not that familiar with all the '14ners' but there might be some you could get to without going through avy terrain. Keeping in mind that Colorado is some of the most avalanche-prone terrain in the US, Ken and his potential partners would do well to be trained a bit about avalanches and terrain before they go (and maybe they are), but it sounds like a lovely way to spend NYE. Also Ken, I'll x-post your question in rec.skiing.backcountry. Bob "Ken Reed" wrote in message om... I would like very much to join a team that is planning to do a 14ner this New Year's Eve or Day. I have done 17 14ners so far, but they have all been summer ascents. I have done some bigger mountains(Pico de Orizaba(18,700 feet), Mexico; Chopicalqui(20,828 feet), Peru) that required snow and ice work. I am also an avid 5.9-5.10 sport climber. I have read of epic climbs of the Diamond on Long's New Year's Day. That is NOT what I am looking for. I'm thinking something relatively easy and safe, like Quandry or Shavano(hopefully something I haven't already done). I have most of the equipment I need, including a Walrus Expedition tent, snow shovel, ice axe, plastic boots, crampons, etc. I lack snow shoes, skiis, and a zero degree fahrenheit bag. I am hoping we won't need avalanche beacons 'cause the route will be so safe. If you have a team or want to form one, please contact me. Thanks, Ken Reed paka.reed@p... |
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Wanna do a 14ner this New Years Eve or Da
Pikes Peak, out of Colorado Springs Colo.
There is a group been doing it for many, many years. The AdAMan club hikes up, staying at Barr Camp overnight, then gets up to touch off fireworks for the NY Eve. They ad a man (women too, actually) every year. Actually they ad several each year. That's about as mellow a walk as you can get. Safe, easy, generally low avalanche risk. Ken Reed wrote: I would like very much to join a team that is planning to do a 14ner this New Year's Eve or Day. I have done 17 14ners so far, but they have all been summer ascents. I have done some bigger mountains(Pico de Orizaba(18,700 feet), Mexico; Chopicalqui(20,828 feet), Peru) that required snow and ice work. I am also an avid 5.9-5.10 sport climber. I have read of epic climbs of the Diamond on Long's New Year's Day. That is NOT what I am looking for. I'm thinking something relatively easy and safe, like Quandry or Shavano(hopefully something I haven't already done). I have most of the equipment I need, including a Walrus Expedition tent, snow shovel, ice axe, plastic boots, crampons, etc. I lack snow shoes, skiis, and a zero degree fahrenheit bag. I am hoping we won't need avalanche beacons 'cause the route will be so safe. If you have a team or want to form one, please contact me. Thanks, Ken Reed paka.reed@p... |
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Wanna do a 14ner this New Years Eve or Da
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, Bob Lee wrote:
avalung and inflatable balloon backpack thing are debatable items. Hey, how about an avy-rescue dog? Those are handy. Too funny... Every once in a blue moon I ski with my roomate; his Husky is quite proficient as a rescue dog (or so I've been assured). Problem is: the damned thing hates me, so I doubt its utility. |
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Wanna do a 14ner this New Years Eve or Da
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B. Cooke typed: On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, Bob Lee wrote: avalung and inflatable balloon backpack thing are debatable items. Hey, how about an avy-rescue dog? Those are handy. Too funny... Every once in a blue moon I ski with my roomate; his Husky is quite proficient as a rescue dog (or so I've been assured). Problem is: the damned thing hates me, so I doubt its utility. Sorry to be an ignorant Brit, but what is a 14ner, apart from a very succseful conker? -- Chris *:-) Downhill Good, Uphill BAD! www.suffolkvikings.org.uk |
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Wanna do a 14ner this New Years Eve or Da
MoonMan wrote:
Sorry to be an ignorant Brit, but what is a 14ner, apart from a very succseful conker? A mountain 14,000 ft high or higher. Quite a lot of those in Colorado. Dave |
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