Wanna do a 14ner this New Years Eve or Da

foot2foot wrote:

Sell the tent, boots and crampons and get an
avalanch beacon. Make sure your partners do
the same.

Besides that, get the Avalung, and the inflatable
ballon backpack thing.

Failing those last two, at least get a probe as well.

There's only *one* thing you *really* need, and
that's a beacon. The other things you really need
are a probe and a shovel. Clothes are but a luxury.

Whoa, let's slow down a little here. An avy beacon is useless if 1)
your partner doesn't have one (and is proficient using it), and 2) your
beacon-proficient partner doesn't have a shovel. The probe is a close
third, but again, if your partner doesn't have a shovel, the probe won't
be much good - except maybe as a marker for the body-recovery crew. The
avalung and inflatable balloon backpack thing are debatable items. Hey,
how about an avy-rescue dog? Those are handy.

But let's back up a little for OP Ken. The
partners/beacons/shovels/probes kit (and practice) could be a good idea
if the approach covers or passes under ground that exceeds 20 degrees in
slope. I'm not that familiar with all the '14ners' but there might be
some you could get to without going through avy terrain.

Keeping in mind that Colorado is some of the most avalanche-prone
terrain in the US, Ken and his potential partners would do well to be
trained a bit about avalanches and terrain before they go (and maybe
they are), but it sounds like a lovely way to spend NYE.

Also Ken, I'll x-post your question in rec.skiing.backcountry.

Bob

"Ken Reed" wrote in message
om...
I would like very much to join a team that is planning to do a 14ner
this New Year's Eve or Day. I have done 17 14ners so far, but they
have all been summer ascents. I have done some bigger mountains(Pico
de Orizaba(18,700 feet), Mexico; Chopicalqui(20,828 feet), Peru) that
required snow and ice work. I am also an avid 5.9-5.10 sport climber.

I have read of epic climbs of the Diamond on Long's New Year's Day.
That is NOT what I am looking for. I'm thinking something relatively
easy and safe, like Quandry or Shavano(hopefully something I haven't
already done).

I have most of the equipment I need, including a Walrus Expedition
tent, snow shovel, ice axe, plastic boots, crampons, etc. I lack
snow shoes, skiis, and a zero degree fahrenheit bag. I am hoping we
won't need avalanche beacons 'cause the route will be so safe.

If you have a team or want to form one, please contact me.

Thanks,
Ken Reed
paka.reed@p...

On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, Bob Lee wrote:

avalung and inflatable balloon backpack thing are debatable items. Hey,
how about an avy-rescue dog? Those are handy.

Too funny... Every once in a blue moon I ski with my roomate; his Husky is
quite proficient as a rescue dog (or so I've been assured). Problem is:
the damned thing hates me, so I doubt its utility.

In ,
B. Cooke typed:
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, Bob Lee wrote:

avalung and inflatable balloon backpack thing are debatable items.
Hey, how about an avy-rescue dog? Those are handy.

Too funny... Every once in a blue moon I ski with my roomate; his
Husky is quite proficient as a rescue dog (or so I've been assured).
Problem is: the damned thing hates me, so I doubt its utility.

Sorry to be an ignorant Brit, but what is a 14ner, apart from a very
succseful conker?


--
Chris *:-)

Downhill Good, Uphill BAD!

www.suffolkvikings.org.uk

B. Cooke wrote:

Too funny... Every once in a blue moon I ski with my roomate; his Husky is
quite proficient as a rescue dog (or so I've been assured). Problem is:
the damned thing hates me, so I doubt its utility.


i don't believe in the rescue qualities of a husky. they're good for 2
things: running and eating ;-)

in andermatt because of their resistence they tried to train them as
rescue dogs, but they didn't learn anything.

greetings,

ulrich

MoonMan wrote:

In ,
B. Cooke typed:

On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, Bob Lee wrote:


avalung and inflatable balloon backpack thing are debatable items.
Hey, how about an avy-rescue dog? Those are handy.

Too funny... Every once in a blue moon I ski with my roomate; his
Husky is quite proficient as a rescue dog (or so I've been assured).
Problem is: the damned thing hates me, so I doubt its utility.


Sorry to be an ignorant Brit, but what is a 14ner, apart from a very
succseful conker?

A 14ner is one of the 14,000 foot peaks in the contiguous United States.
(I believe "contiguous" is part of the definition - usually the Alaskan
and Hawaiian 14,000+ peaks are not included? Correct?)

BTW Collyradicans misbelieve that they have cornered the market on
14ners, and so assume when speaking of 14ners - as usual, they are
incorrect.

"Kurt Knisely" wrote

I can visualize the headlines now... "Man rescued by dog, bleeds to death
from
bites"

Or how about... climber found dead beneath mound of yellow snow?

DMT

lal_truckee wrote:

A 14ner is one of the 14,000 foot peaks in the contiguous United States.
(I believe "contiguous" is part of the definition - usually the Alaskan
and Hawaiian 14,000+ peaks are not included? Correct?)

BTW Collyradicans misbelieve that they have cornered the market on
14ners, and so assume when speaking of 14ners - as usual, they are
incorrect.

Just like Texans. They never talk about Alaska either.

-Mike

Dingus Milktoast wrote:

"Kurt Knisely" wrote


I can visualize the headlines now... "Man rescued by dog, bleeds to death

from

bites"


Or how about... climber found dead beneath mound of yellow snow?


And she said, with a tear in her eye
"Watch out where the huskies go"

On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:44:56 GMT, Mike Garrison
wrote:

lal_truckee wrote:

A 14ner is one of the 14,000 foot peaks in the contiguous United States.
(I believe "contiguous" is part of the definition - usually the Alaskan
and Hawaiian 14,000+ peaks are not included? Correct?)

BTW Collyradicans misbelieve that they have cornered the market on
14ners, and so assume when speaking of 14ners - as usual, they are
incorrect.

Just like Texans. They never talk about Alaska either.

Telling Coloradans they are just like Texans in some way should get
amusing.

Happy trails,
Gary (net.yogi.bear)
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"Bob Lee" wrote in message
...
MoonMan wrote:

Sorry to be an ignorant Brit, but what is a 14ner, apart from a very
succseful conker?

No problem with the Brit-ness, and now that lal answered your question,
what's a conker?

Bob

I bet I already know...I just want to see what you say.

Well, I don't, so thank you for asking so I don't have to look ignorant.