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Just my observation, the more time you have spent skiing, the harder
it is to pick up snowboarding. Why? Well of course you wouldn't know, YOU weren't an advanced skiier trying snowboarding! I skied well over 400days before trying snowboarding. Mainly 4 years of season's passes to Squaw, hanging with the mid '70's bump team, easily non stopped WestFace when it's volkwagan sized moguls. Have nonstoped Gunbarrel, but that's max for my aerobics. Quit for a few years, gear got outdated, then got a job at a windsurf/snowboard shop. Guess what, you gotta be able to snowboard to sell snowboard gear! I crashed and caught edges whole 2 hour first day. A week later, second day at BearValley, could ride the whole upper mountain without falling, including some remedial moguls off the ridges. Once again, my surfing friends learn snowboarding much faster than I did. They could ride most of intermediate resorts the first few runs....EVER! That's because they don't need to face forward in snow, they face sideways surfing all the time! A skier has a natural tendency to face straight down the hill and angulate the lower body to go across the hill, you know, fall line skiing. That's not how snowboarding is done until you get past the beginner stage. |
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LeeD wrote:
A skier has a natural tendency to face straight down the hill and angulate the lower body to go across the hill, you know, fall line skiing. I saw a very good skier try to wakeboard this summer. It was absolutely hilarious. He was travelling sideways. LOL!!!!! |
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How fast are you going when you do such a roll ? If you don't use your arm to break your fall, are you in danger of hitting your head ? I think if I fall at high speed whatever natural (instinctive) knee jerk reaction I have like sticking out my hand might kick in and screw me up. I'm glad you guys are filling me in on all this stuff, I can imagine how you could easily get hurt. Would it be wise to practice falling at slower speed by trying alot of manuevers that might help you learn to manuever but also increase your chances of learning to fall better ? Sounds like you really need a helmet ? My sis says skiiers don't need helmets and didn't think snowboarders would. Are there many helmet options such as a soft helmet that can be packed easier and is more cushiony like a surfiing helmet for rocks ? Would a hard football type helmet be best ? Thanks |
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surf wrote:
Would it be wise to practice falling at slower speed by trying alot of manuevers that might help you learn to manuever but also increase your chances of learning to fall better ? I think you'll be practicing this whether you like it or not |
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surf wrote:
Sounds like you really need a helmet ? My sis says skiiers don't need helmets and didn't think snowboarders would. Are there many helmet options such as a soft helmet that can be packed easier and is more cushiony like a surfiing helmet for rocks ? Would a hard football type helmet be best ? I think all snowboarding helmets are the hard variety. I've never seen soft ones. You don't really need one as a beginner. You only really need one when you start going off-piste where there is a risk of rocks, or when you start learning rails/jumps. Saying that, it won't do any harm to get one if you don't mind spending the money. Many people don't use them though, and I've heared some nasty stories about injuries/deaths that could have been prevented if they'd been wearing one. |
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Octessence wrote:
Many people don't use them though, and I've heared some nasty stories about injuries/deaths that could have been prevented if they'd been wearing one. Just found this with google. Looks interesting: http://www.ski-injury.com/helmet.htm |
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On 3 Jan 2006 16:09:00 -0800, "LeeD" wrote:
Just my observation, the more time you have spent skiing, the harder it is to pick up snowboarding. Why? Well of course you wouldn't know, YOU weren't an advanced skiier trying snowboarding! I skied well over 400days before trying snowboarding. Mainly 4 years of season's passes to Squaw, hanging with the mid '70's bump team, easily non stopped WestFace when it's volkwagan sized moguls. Have nonstoped Gunbarrel, but that's max for my aerobics. Quit for a few years, gear got outdated, then got a job at a windsurf/snowboard shop. Guess what, you gotta be able to snowboard to sell snowboard gear! I crashed and caught edges whole 2 hour first day. A week later, second day at BearValley, could ride the whole upper mountain without falling, including some remedial moguls off the ridges. Hmmm. Sounds to me like you picked it up real quickly compared to most beginner snowboarders. (PS: why is everyone removing all context to what they're replying to here nowadays?) -- Champ |
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On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 00:09:00 GMT, "LeeD" allegedly
wrote: Once again, my surfing friends learn snowboarding much faster than I did. They could ride most of intermediate resorts the first few runs....EVER! That's because they don't need to face forward in snow, they face sideways surfing all the time! Being comfortable going sideways is a tiny aid to learning snowboarding. As an experienced surfer it helped me not one bit when I first tried boarding. I didn't know about edge control and different snow conditions etc. Every experienced skier I know that converted to boarding found it easier than boarders with no previous snow experience. - Dave. -- The only powder to get high on, falls from the sky. http://www.vpas.org/ - Snowboarding the worlds pow pow - Securing your e-mail The Snowboard FAQ lives here - http://rssFAQ.org/ |
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On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 11:09:11 GMT, Champ allegedly
wrote: (PS: why is everyone removing all context to what they're replying to here nowadays?) It's all the numpties using google groups. They seem to think this newsgroup is actually part of google (witness recent references to a post by a number, like 219!) It would seem that google has a crappy interface that doesn't include the previous post by default allowing no attributions or context. I guess clicking that extra toggle button is too much to ask. Welcome to the newest era of usenet. - Dave. -- The only powder to get high on, falls from the sky. http://www.vpas.org/ - Snowboarding the worlds pow pow - Securing your e-mail The Snowboard FAQ lives here - http://rssFAQ.org/ |
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On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 10:35:40 GMT, Octessence
allegedly wrote: I think all snowboarding helmets are the hard variety. I've never seen soft ones. You don't really need one as a beginner. You only really need one when you start going off-piste where there is a risk of rocks, or when you start learning rails/jumps. Saying that, it won't do any harm to get one if you don't mind spending the money. Can't say I agree. A normal piste can be rock hard in the right conditions, and not something you would want to hit your head on. If someone wants to wear a helmet, then they might as well wear it all the time. Many people don't use them though, So far this year, I think there's been a big change. I was out in Switzerland recently and there seems to be a huge increase in the amount of people wearing them, skiers and boarders, young and old. I'd say it was 50% if not more. And in North America I'd say the majority wear them already. At least on the hills I've been to. - Dave. -- The only powder to get high on, falls from the sky. http://www.vpas.org/ - Snowboarding the worlds pow pow - Securing your e-mail The Snowboard FAQ lives here - http://rssFAQ.org/ |
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