best transfer geneva to Arc2000 for 11 people?

Ace wrote:
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:10:55 +0100, Bill Seddon
wrote:


I drove to Tignes in Feb half term last year, no bother at all. Drove
down to Annecy on the Friday via Frangy, stopped in an Etap,

I've done the same on many occasions, but I'd heartily recommend the
Annecy centre Kyriad, which is built into the old town wall and
therefore right in the heart of things. About 50 restaurants within a
five minute strolling distance.

Yeah that would have been better but was full. The Etap was in the
middle of nowhere and we ended up in a " Quick" burger or the like.

then left
at about 8am and was checked in and on the slopes having hired skis just
after lunch.


We'd normally aim to leave around 7, then be skiing by 9:30 or so.
Breakfast can wait until coffee time.

No traffic to speak off doing the Frangy route. Went down
the A39 from Dijon missing Dijon, Chalon, Macon and Lyon and lots of
traffic.

Does anyone still drive via Lyon? I gave up doing so in about 1998
when I first discovered the 'new' bit of A39 from Dole.

In fact IIRC I had a boot fitting appt at 11.30 and we had checked in
and got kids skis before this.

Ah, that explains the 'slow' start.

Boots were initially fitted on the sat morning, shop, Nevada Sports,
very quiet, I was told to ski on the them until Mon evening then come
back for foot beds / adjustment. Another hour or so on the Monday and
they are now perfect.

On 3 Oct, 08:31, Ace wrote:

No traffic to speak off doing the Frangy route. Went down
the A39 from Dijon missing Dijon, Chalon, Macon and Lyon and lots of
traffic.

Does anyone still drive via Lyon? I gave up doing so in about 1998
when I first discovered the 'new' bit of A39 from Dole.

I actually went via Lyon on the way to see Le Tour this summer, then
back via Bourg en Bresse. Can't say there was any difference in the
time and no real traffic either way, but that's what you get for
driving on a Wednesday I guess. I'd certainly think twice about it at
peak times on a Saturday during half term..

Matt

Matt T wrote:
On 3 Oct, 08:31, Ace wrote:
No traffic to speak off doing the Frangy route. Went down
the A39 from Dijon missing Dijon, Chalon, Macon and Lyon and lots of
traffic.
Does anyone still drive via Lyon? I gave up doing so in about 1998
when I first discovered the 'new' bit of A39 from Dole.

I actually went via Lyon on the way to see Le Tour this summer, then
back via Bourg en Bresse. Can't say there was any difference in the
time and no real traffic either way, but that's what you get for
driving on a Wednesday I guess. I'd certainly think twice about it at
peak times on a Saturday during half term..

I'd suggest that whether to drive via Lyon or via Annecy depends not
only on traffic but also on where you're going. If you're heading for
the Tarentaise or anywhere above Albertville there's probably little in
it, but if you're heading further south, e.g. anywhere that will take
you via Grenoble, then it may well actually be quicker via Lyon (or more
precisely *around the edge* of Lyon on the A432 past the airport,
particularly if arriving via the A39 then A42).

John.

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John Wilcock wrote:
Matt T wrote:

On 3 Oct, 08:31, Ace wrote:

No traffic to speak off doing the Frangy route. Went down
the A39 from Dijon missing Dijon, Chalon, Macon and Lyon and lots of
traffic.

Does anyone still drive via Lyon? I gave up doing so in about 1998
when I first discovered the 'new' bit of A39 from Dole.


I actually went via Lyon on the way to see Le Tour this summer, then
back via Bourg en Bresse. Can't say there was any difference in the
time and no real traffic either way, but that's what you get for
driving on a Wednesday I guess. I'd certainly think twice about it at
peak times on a Saturday during half term..


I'd suggest that whether to drive via Lyon or via Annecy depends not
only on traffic but also on where you're going. If you're heading for
the Tarentaise or anywhere above Albertville there's probably little in
it, but if you're heading further south, e.g. anywhere that will take
you via Grenoble, then it may well actually be quicker via Lyon (or more
precisely *around the edge* of Lyon on the A432 past the airport,
particularly if arriving via the A39 then A42).

John.

I always go down the A39 from Dijon to Lyon Airport and hence to the
tarrentaise. I tried the route through Annecy once I got held up in huge
traffic jams (about 2 hours!) so I will not try again. It may have only
been because it was summer but traffic from the entrace to Annecy to
past the lake was just one one crawl. From then on it was fine.


I think Ace was refering to going across to the A6 and past Macon when
he was saying "via Lyon". However, I have a friend living in Grenoble
who takes that route when driving to Grenoble because he argues it costs
less in tolls. For me after a hard nights driving I do care about the
extra few euros.

BTW I do the drive 3 times a year.


John

On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 12:45:30 +0100, "
" wrote:

I always go down the A39 from Dijon to Lyon Airport and hence to the
tarrentaise. I tried the route through Annecy once

The best route, IME, joins the Autoroute just one junction N of
Annecy, so you get straight into the centre.

I got held up in huge
traffic jams (about 2 hours!) so I will not try again. It may have only
been because it was summer but traffic from the entrace to Annecy to
past the lake was just one one crawl.

It's always the slowest part of the journey, but early morning in Ski
Season is not usually a problem.

I think Ace was refering to going across to the A6

Dunno about 'across'. The A31 continues straight past dijon and
becomes the A6. Both referred to as the E21.

and past Macon when he was saying "via Lyon".

Well, in Pre-A39 days that'd have been the only route, yes.

However, I have a friend living in Grenoble
who takes that route when driving to Grenoble because he argues it costs
less in tolls. For me after a hard nights driving I do care about the
extra few euros.

BTW I do the drive 3 times a year.

You should try the other way again then. Clrearly it depends somewhat
on your driving style, but even avoiding Lyon as you do (and there's
not so much need now since they built the A46) it's still quite a lot
out of your way to the Tarentaise.

Personally, of course, I never go anywhere near Lyon these days, given
where I live, but I still regularly use the Annecy route from Geneva
to the Tarentaise.

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All opinions expressed are personal and in no way represent those of the Ski Club.

Ok, booked the motors now. Best this year seemed to be through
www.easycar.com. It beat Budget and Europcar easily. 8 days for a B size
with winter pack came it at just over £170.

Thanks all,
John


"Ace" wrote in message
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On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 16:38:02 +0200, "Roger Moss"
wrote:

There are also a lot of taxis outside the railway station

There certainly are - and some of the cab drivers have big, roomy Espaces
well up to transfers with luggage. Tourism Office might well also know of
drivers with 14-seaters, too (I've used one in the past for a longer group
transfer but don't have a contact, I'm afraid).

Train into Bourg + cab(s) could be a worthwhile option.

Execept that the train will take 4-5 hours and one or two changes.

Really not a goer, IMO. Best by far to use one of the many transfer
specialists or, as stated earlier, just book large rental cars, which
may well work out cheaper, and will get you there in about 2-2.5 hours
under normal traffic conditions.

--
Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom)
Ski Club of Great Britain - http://www.skiclub.co.uk
All opinions expressed are personal and in no way represent those of the
Ski Club.

On 8 Ott, 08:22, "JR" wrote:
Ok, booked the motors now. Best this year seemed to be throughwww.easycar..com. It beat Budget and Europcar easily. 8 days for a B size
with winter pack came it at just over £170.

Thanks all,
John

"Ace" wrote in message

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On Tue, 2 Oct200716:38:02 +0200, "Roger Moss"
wrote:

There are also a lot of taxis outside the railway station

There certainly are - and some of the cab drivers have big, roomy Espaces
well up to transfers with luggage. Tourism Office might well also know of
drivers with 14-seaters, too (I've used one in the past for a longer group
transfer but don't have a contact, I'm afraid).

Train into Bourg + cab(s) could be a worthwhile option.

Execept that the train will take 4-5 hours and one or two changes.

Really not a goer, IMO. Best by far to use one of the many transfer
specialists or, as stated earlier, just book large rental cars, which
may well work out cheaper, and will get you there in about 2-2.5 hours
under normal traffic conditions.

--
Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom)
Ski Club of Great Britain -http://www.skiclub.co.uk
All opinions expressed are personal and in no way represent those of the
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Be careful when using easycar....I booked a car with them in Portugal
this summer, but when I got there there was no car for
me....and ....they already got the payment. I had to pay for a new car
with a new company.....

Thanks all
Alberto