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Old October 25th 04, 07:17 AM
AH
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Default Driving from Alta to Heavenly

Hi all..

I am going to be skiing at Alta/Snowbird on the 6th and 7th of December,
then driving on the 8th to Heavenly and skiing there for 2 days... Map point
says that it will take about 9 hours, which is fine..

However, what I didn't realise is that this motorway is pretty "high" (asl)
and it seems to snow there.. my question is, how likely is the highway to be
closed, and if it does snow and stay open, how much will this affect my
journey?

Also, I'm hiring a car in LA (we're doing a 3 week trip going out as far as
SLC) and I need to get some snow chains. Just need them to last three
weeks.. anyone got a suggestion about where to buy some cheap ones?


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Old October 25th 04, 02:42 PM
Root
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"AH" wrote in message
.uk...
Hi all..

I am going to be skiing at Alta/Snowbird on the 6th and 7th of December,
then driving on the 8th to Heavenly and skiing there for 2 days... Map
point says that it will take about 9 hours, which is fine..

However, what I didn't realise is that this motorway is pretty "high"
(asl) and it seems to snow there.. my question is, how likely is the
highway to be closed, and if it does snow and stay open, how much will
this affect my journey?

Also, I'm hiring a car in LA (we're doing a 3 week trip going out as far
as SLC) and I need to get some snow chains. Just need them to last three
weeks.. anyone got a suggestion about where to buy some cheap ones?


Costco has cheap chains...as does wal mart I believe. If you don't use them
you could take them back to either of them I believe. If you do use them,
sell them on ebay after. I-80 from SLC to reno may get bad but they really
don't close it. Its only around Heavenly that it might get bad. The canyon
to alta might be closed to everyone but chains and 4x4 if it keeps up like
the past 4 days! yes


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Old October 25th 04, 03:07 PM
The Real Bev
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Root wrote:

"AH" wrote:

I am going to be skiing at Alta/Snowbird on the 6th and 7th of December,
then driving on the 8th to Heavenly and skiing there for 2 days... Map
point says that it will take about 9 hours, which is fine..

However, what I didn't realise is that this motorway is pretty "high"
(asl) and it seems to snow there.. my question is, how likely is the
highway to be closed, and if it does snow and stay open, how much will
this affect my journey?

Also, I'm hiring a car in LA (we're doing a 3 week trip going out as far
as SLC) and I need to get some snow chains. Just need them to last three
weeks.. anyone got a suggestion about where to buy some cheap ones?


Costco has cheap chains...as does wal mart I believe. If you don't use them
you could take them back to either of them I believe. If you do use them,
sell them on ebay after. I-80 from SLC to reno may get bad but they really
don't close it. Its only around Heavenly that it might get bad. The canyon
to alta might be closed to everyone but chains and 4x4 if it keeps up like
the past 4 days! yes


I thought car rental companies frowned on the use of chains, and
apparently real made-out-of-real-chain chains don't fit in the
wheel-wells of modern cars. True? False? Somewhere in between?

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Old October 25th 04, 03:35 PM
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The Real Bev wrote:

I thought car rental companies frowned on the use of chains,


Yes they do. They also frown on driving on unpaved (dirt) roads.
What they don't know won't hurt them. But you could be in trouble if
they find out.


apparently real made-out-of-real-chain chains don't fit in the
wheel-wells of modern cars.


I think it depends on the car.

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Old October 25th 04, 03:44 PM
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"The Real Bev" wrote in message
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Root wrote:
I thought car rental companies frowned on the use of chains, and
apparently real made-out-of-real-chain chains don't fit in the
wheel-wells of modern cars. True? False? Somewhere in between?


This is something I will certainly have to check, however surely they would
prefer me to use chains in the snow, than run off the road and smash up
their car..


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Old October 25th 04, 03:51 PM
AH
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"Root" wrote in message
om...

"AH" wrote in message
.uk...
Hi all..

I am going to be skiing at Alta/Snowbird on the 6th and 7th of December,
then driving on the 8th to Heavenly and skiing there for 2 days... Map
point says that it will take about 9 hours, which is fine..

However, what I didn't realise is that this motorway is pretty "high"
(asl) and it seems to snow there.. my question is, how likely is the
highway to be closed, and if it does snow and stay open, how much will
this affect my journey?

Also, I'm hiring a car in LA (we're doing a 3 week trip going out as far
as SLC) and I need to get some snow chains. Just need them to last three
weeks.. anyone got a suggestion about where to buy some cheap ones?


Costco has cheap chains...as does wal mart I believe. If you don't use
them you could take them back to either of them I believe. If you do use
them, sell them on ebay after. I-80 from SLC to reno may get bad but they
really don't close it. Its only around Heavenly that it might get bad. The
canyon to alta might be closed to everyone but chains and 4x4 if it keeps
up like the past 4 days! yes


Thanks for your advice..

What is the deal with chains? I'm from Australia, but live in London, and
as it rarely snows in both places, I have never really driven in snow..

At what point should you put them on? If there is 2 inches of snow on the
ground is it really necessary to fit them at that point?


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Old October 25th 04, 04:08 PM
Walt
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AH wrote:

What is the deal with chains? I'm from Australia, but live in London, and
as it rarely snows in both places, I have never really driven in snow..

At what point should you put them on? If there is 2 inches of snow on the
ground is it really necessary to fit them at that point?


Nah. Just rent a four wheel drive SUV. You'll be invincible. (c:

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Old October 25th 04, 04:28 PM
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AH wrote:
Hi all..

I am going to be skiing at Alta/Snowbird on the 6th and 7th of December,
then driving on the 8th to Heavenly and skiing there for 2 days... Map point
says that it will take about 9 hours, which is fine..


Pap Point is wrong. I figure 10 hours to Truckee when I make the run -
Heavenly is farther. It's a long drive, but doable in a day, but you
will want to make a couple of walk-around stops.


However, what I didn't realise is that this motorway is pretty "high" (asl)
and it seems to snow there.. my question is, how likely is the highway to be
closed, and if it does snow and stay open, how much will this affect my
journey?


Maybe from Carson City to South Shore (Heavenly) you will see snow and
chain control - if it's in the forcast stop off in Reno for cheap chains
- every corner store in town sales chains - expect to pay $25-$30. But
by then you'll know if you need chains, so you will likely save the cost
by not getting them. I've seen only flurries coming accross Nevada; neve
needed chains. Since it's a long way and all pretty much the same
exposure, so if chains were required accross Nevada it'd probably be for
200+ miles; you don't want to do that: hole up in a motel and wait a day
- it'll melt.


Also, I'm hiring a car in LA (we're doing a 3 week trip going out as far as
SLC) and I need to get some snow chains. Just need them to last three
weeks.. anyone got a suggestion about where to buy some cheap ones?


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Old October 25th 04, 04:38 PM
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AH wrote:
"Root" wrote in message
om...

"AH" wrote in message
. co.uk...

Hi all..

I am going to be skiing at Alta/Snowbird on the 6th and 7th of December,
then driving on the 8th to Heavenly and skiing there for 2 days... Map
point says that it will take about 9 hours, which is fine..

However, what I didn't realise is that this motorway is pretty "high"
(asl) and it seems to snow there.. my question is, how likely is the
highway to be closed, and if it does snow and stay open, how much will
this affect my journey?

Also, I'm hiring a car in LA (we're doing a 3 week trip going out as far
as SLC) and I need to get some snow chains. Just need them to last three
weeks.. anyone got a suggestion about where to buy some cheap ones?


Costco has cheap chains...as does wal mart I believe. If you don't use
them you could take them back to either of them I believe. If you do use
them, sell them on ebay after. I-80 from SLC to reno may get bad but they
really don't close it. Its only around Heavenly that it might get bad. The
canyon to alta might be closed to everyone but chains and 4x4 if it keeps
up like the past 4 days! yes



Thanks for your advice..

What is the deal with chains? I'm from Australia, but live in London, and
as it rarely snows in both places, I have never really driven in snow..

At what point should you put them on? If there is 2 inches of snow on the
ground is it really necessary to fit them at that point?


The Highway people will tell you - they will set chain required signs.
Generally on the highway The Highway people are accurate about need, so
don't put on chains until you see the chains required sign. Ignore the
doofusses who will be putting chains on ahead of need - they will end up
driving miles on pavement and ruining their chains.

Off the highway it's up to you - if you find yourself skidding or unable
to climb the hill to your lodging, chains might be a good idea.

Main thing about snow is to slow the hell down. It'll take 5-10 times
the distance to stop as on dry pavement. And you'll spin out like on a
race driving training course where they oil the pavement for spin
practice, only even easier.
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Old October 25th 04, 05:29 PM
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"Root" wrote

Costco has cheap chains...as does wal mart I believe. If you don't use them you could take them back to either of them I believe.
If you do use them, sell them on ebay after. I-80 from SLC to reno may get bad but they really don't close it. Its only around
Heavenly that it might get bad. The canyon to alta might be closed to everyone but chains and 4x4 if it keeps up like the past 4
days! yes


Hmm.. Donner Pass surely gets closed once in a while when a big
dump comes in, I was stranded there a couple of times. Where is the
closure point east of Truckee?


 




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