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Old November 15th 04, 01:24 AM
J. VerSchave
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Default Winter Jacket

I am looking to buy an all-purpose jacket this year for my
snowboarding and mountain biking activities. I am assuming I should
get a separate shell and liner.

Shell
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- water-proof
- wind-resistant
- reflective (scotchlight or equivalent) stripe across the check, back
and on the sleeves (sometimes I bike in the city and would prefered
not to get hit by a car)
- not bulky
- breathable

Liner
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- warm
- breathable
- fast drying
- not bulky

Anyone have any recommendations for the shell and/or the liner.
Thanks.

-jean
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Old November 15th 04, 03:07 PM
Neil Gendzwill
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J. VerSchave wrote:

I am looking to buy an all-purpose jacket this year for my
snowboarding and mountain biking activities. I am assuming I should
get a separate shell and liner.


See www.mec.ca, they'll have what you need, as well as lots of
information explaining the various products.

Neil

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Old November 15th 04, 09:35 PM
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"J. VerSchave" wrote

I am looking to buy an all-purpose jacket this year for my
snowboarding and mountain biking activities. I am assuming I should
get a separate shell and liner.


Liner? Why?

A good outfit consists of a base layer, a fleece jacket (I have 3
different ones and that's the only thing that changes according to
the weather), and a shell.

There's a Salomon Somatic shell jacket on sierratradingpost.com
for $140 now, that's what I used for a good part of last season and the
3 days I was out this season (~30 days total) and I highly recommend it.
But it doesn't have anything reflective on it.

Goot points about it a
- no liners or any other junk manufacturers like to attach inside
- no hood
- very simple and functional design

The only bad thing is that the front zipper likes to bite parts
of the shell and get stuck, but it doesn't happen too often to
be a big issue.

Basically it's an almost exact analog of the top-dog shells
like Arc'teryx Alpha SV, but for half the price and no damn hood.


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Old November 15th 04, 09:50 PM
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Dmitry wrote:

"J. VerSchave" wrote


I am looking to buy an all-purpose jacket this year for my
snowboarding and mountain biking activities. I am assuming I should
get a separate shell and liner.



Liner? Why?


I think he met shell and seperate insulation layer, like a fleece.

Anyways, go to the aforementioned Mountain Equipment Coop Site
(www.mec.ca) and look for the Zik jacket (under men's cycling clothing).
The hood is zip-off, which is good when you're using helmets. It's
made of Gore-Tex XCR, the best of the waterproof-breathables. It has
reflective strips. You could easily use it on the mountain too. You'll
need to get a fleece to wear underneath it for colder conditions.

Neil

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Old November 16th 04, 12:37 AM
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"Neil Gendzwill" wrote in message
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Dmitry wrote:

"J. VerSchave" wrote


I am looking to buy an all-purpose jacket this year for my
snowboarding and mountain biking activities. I am assuming I should
get a separate shell and liner.



Liner? Why?


I think he met shell and seperate insulation layer, like a fleece.

Anyways, go to the aforementioned Mountain Equipment Coop Site
(www.mec.ca) and look for the Zik jacket (under men's cycling clothing).
The hood is zip-off, which is good when you're using helmets. It's
made of Gore-Tex XCR, the best of the waterproof-breathables. It has
reflective strips. You could easily use it on the mountain too. You'll
need to get a fleece to wear underneath it for colder conditions.


I think shells suck. They all trap sweat like crazy, even the "breathable"
ones. Unless it's raining, I'm wearing fleece with a wind vest, much
cheaper and tune-able. In the rain, it doesn't matter, you'll get wet
either way. You just want to keep running water off your body.


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Old November 16th 04, 12:56 AM
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Peter Cole wrote:
"Neil Gendzwill" wrote in message
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Dmitry wrote:


"J. VerSchave" wrote



I am looking to buy an all-purpose jacket this year for my
snowboarding and mountain biking activities. I am assuming I should
get a separate shell and liner.


Liner? Why?


I think he met shell and seperate insulation layer, like a fleece.

Anyways, go to the aforementioned Mountain Equipment Coop Site
(www.mec.ca) and look for the Zik jacket (under men's cycling clothing).
The hood is zip-off, which is good when you're using helmets. It's
made of Gore-Tex XCR, the best of the waterproof-breathables. It has
reflective strips. You could easily use it on the mountain too. You'll
need to get a fleece to wear underneath it for colder conditions.



I think shells suck. They all trap sweat like crazy, even the "breathable"
ones. Unless it's raining, I'm wearing fleece with a wind vest, much
cheaper and tune-able. In the rain, it doesn't matter, you'll get wet
either way. You just want to keep running water off your body.


If you leave word where you'll be skiing in the backcountry, we can
collect the body in the Spring.
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Old November 16th 04, 01:51 AM
Dmitry
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"Peter Cole" wrote

I think shells suck. They all trap sweat like crazy, even the "breathable"
ones. Unless it's raining, I'm wearing fleece with a wind vest, much
cheaper and tune-able.


You got to be kidding. Or your "unless" should include
"cold and/or windy". Where do you ski?

In the rain, it doesn't matter, you'll get wet
either way. You just want to keep running water off your body.


Not true. I boarded in the pouring rain last season
wrapped in good shells (jacket - Salomon Somatic, pants -
Arc'teryx Minuteman) and all of my layers other than the
shell were dry after two hours of this misery


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Old November 16th 04, 07:23 AM
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"J. VerSchave" wrote in message om...
I am looking to buy an all-purpose jacket this year for my
snowboarding and mountain biking activities.


What kind of conditions?

For cycling, I rarely want more than a long-sleeved wool jersey and a
windbreaker with maybe a base layer when it's really cold. I've probably
worn Polertec 200 fleece cycling a couple of times. I can't imagine riding
someplace where that stuff isn't enough (and I'm not going to icebike.com
to help my imagination). If raining, a shell on the breathable side of the
waterproof/breathable tradeoff instead of a windbreaker, and maybe a
lighter jersey instead long-sleeved wool.

For boarding (at resorts), I'm not so concerned, since if conditions change,
I too can change. My MEC Northernlight Pullover works pretty well,
like a fleece + windbreaker, and doesn't hold water, but isn't the best for when
you get hot. I've got a Bipolar 300 fleece jacket with full front zip, and side vents
that's my favorite for boarding as it covers a broad temp range. I'm sure
boarding-specific stuff has advantages, but that stuff works for me so far.

My cousin never rides in more than a t-shirt and hooded windbreaker, which seems
like a true "cotton kills" outfit, but this is resort boarding, and it works for him.



 




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