ski death after man hits tree at Burke Mt.

The Real Bev wrote:
Schmoe wrote:
AH wrote:
Was he wearing a helmet?
Why? Will it bring him back? A helmet will not stop your neck from
breaking
upon impact.
If it's too heavy or the wrong shape/size it may even facilitate the
break.

Ayup, that's why getting a helmet that fits is of utmost importance.
Weight is usually not a problem as most ski helmets are pretty light
these days. For young kids it's much more of an issue. The main
physical danger of wearing a helmet is having it get snagged on
something (tree, chair lift, etc) and if the starp is too loose, the
wearer can get strangled.

TexasSkiNut wrote:

The Real Bev wrote:
Schmoe wrote:
AH wrote:
Was he wearing a helmet?
Why? Will it bring him back? A helmet will not stop your neck from
breaking upon impact.
If it's too heavy or the wrong shape/size it may even facilitate the
break.

Ayup, that's why getting a helmet that fits is of utmost importance.
Weight is usually not a problem as most ski helmets are pretty light
these days. For young kids it's much more of an issue. The main
physical danger of wearing a helmet is having it get snagged on
something (tree, chair lift, etc) and if the starp is too loose, the
wearer can get strangled.

I'm constantly amazed at what parents regard as proper bicycle helmet
fit for their spawn (and themselves). Backwards, no straps, loose
straps, worn on the back of the head... It was the same before the
helmets were required, so I can't attribute it to belief in the
worthlessness of helmets. Darwin?

FWIW, my bike helmet saved me from a nasty skull-bash, but it didn't
prevent the cut on my chin, and a ski helmet wouldn't have protected my
below-the-neck body parts in my last crash :-(

--
Cheers,
Bev
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you put it into the body of a great white shark, suddenly
you're a madman." --Futurama

Sam Seiber wrote:

And to follow on with my pet peeve... Here in Colorado there is
always mention of the helmet. What I really want to know after
reading about the helmet is "would it have helped"? When I think
of the worse thing I could do to myself on the slopes, I think
of wrapping myself around a tree. I fail to see how a helmet is
going to be of ANY help there. I don't see how a helmet is
going to protect my vital organs within my torso.

Wear a mini-helmet on your outie belly button...

lal_truckee wrote:
Wear a mini-helmet on your outie belly button...

Say.... that sounds like sound thinking. I had better
stop off at the nearby WalMart and pick one up.

Sam "Where are the mini-helmets located..." Seiber

The Real Bev wrote:

If it's too heavy or the wrong shape/size it may even facilitate the
break.

I think people who give this idea much credence are misinformed about
the weight of an average human head. It'd take a ridiculously heavy
helmet to add significant momentum to the old noggin and facility a
whip-effect neck break that wouldn't otherwise happen.

(Hey Bev - I just scored new (to me) ski pants to replace my worn out
spring pants, a new (to me) Pendelton shirt, and a new (to me) merino
wool sweater at the local goodwill equivalent and walked out with change
from a $20. How's your spring shopping going?)

lal_truckee wrote:

The Real Bev wrote:

If it's too heavy or the wrong shape/size it may even facilitate the
break.

I think people who give this idea much credence are misinformed about
the weight of an average human head. It'd take a ridiculously heavy
helmet to add significant momentum to the old noggin and facility a
whip-effect neck break that wouldn't otherwise happen.

I base my statement on the old (I can't find it anywhere, even on line)
USAF study on jet-pilot helmet design, much of which info was used by
the people who make MC helmets. Anybody got a link? The most striking
thing I remember was that hair is a whole lot better than bald for head
protection. I know for a fact that short-cloth works a lot better than
skin...

(Hey Bev - I just scored new (to me) ski pants to replace my worn out
spring pants, a new (to me) Pendelton shirt, and a new (to me) merino
wool sweater at the local goodwill equivalent and walked out with change
from a $20. How's your spring shopping going?)

The current rain has flooded out my shopping venues for the last month
or so. I actually don't need anything now, unless I happen to run
across some nicer skis. I was looking at my ski stash in the
monsterhome and am just about ready to contribute most of it to the
Goodwill. Play It Again doesn't deal in used ski equipment any more and
they'd probably laugh at what I've got anyway.

I'd really like a nice pair of black cargo ski pants. Alternatively, I
can sew a loop down around my knee on the ones I have so I don't have to
plow through the layers to show the liftie my pass. Does 6 minutes
count as short-term or long-term memory?

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Cheers,
Bev
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"Sure, everyone's in favor of saving Hitler's brain, but when
you put it into the body of a great white shark, suddenly
you're a madman." --Futurama

Sam Seiber wrote:

lal_truckee wrote:
Wear a mini-helmet on your outie belly button...

Say.... that sounds like sound thinking. I had better
stop off at the nearby WalMart and pick one up.

Sam "Where are the mini-helmets located..." Seiber

"Trojan or Sheik? Large, medium or small? Color? Flavor?"

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Cheers. Bev
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lal_truckee wrote:

The Real Bev wrote:

If it's too heavy or the wrong shape/size it may even facilitate the
break.

I think people who give this idea much credence are misinformed about
the weight of an average human head. It'd take a ridiculously heavy
helmet to add significant momentum to the old noggin and facility a
whip-effect neck break that wouldn't otherwise happen.

A thing I forgot -- if it's too loose it can be pushed/knocked backward
(rotated) on the head, resulting in a goodly smack on the back of the
neck, causing a break that wouldn't have happened without the helmet.
One solution is to cut away the back of the helmet so that it can't bash
the neck under normal circumstances, whatever they are.

Better to make sure the helmet fits so that it can't rotate when the
strap is fastened. The bad part, of course, is that such a snug fit
isn't all that comfortable until you train yourself to get used to it.

--
Cheers,
Bev
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"Sure, everyone's in favor of saving Hitler's brain, but when
you put it into the body of a great white shark, suddenly
you're a madman." --Futurama

AstroPax wrote:

wrote:

I'd really like a nice pair of black cargo ski pants.

I'm seeing a lot of these cargo pants, of late. I think they are a
fad, just like helemts.

They're really quite practical. I have some cargo shorts that are
nearly falling apart, but I won't throw them away no matter how much my
mom whines. I LOVE pockets.

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Cheers,
Bev
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"Sure, everyone's in favor of saving Hitler's brain, but when
you put it into the body of a great white shark, suddenly
you're a madman." --Futurama

The Real Bev wrote:

TexasSkiNut wrote:

The Real Bev wrote:

Schmoe wrote:

AH wrote:

Was he wearing a helmet?

Why? Will it bring him back? A helmet will not stop your neck from
breaking upon impact.

If it's too heavy or the wrong shape/size it may even facilitate the
break.

Ayup, that's why getting a helmet that fits is of utmost importance.
Weight is usually not a problem as most ski helmets are pretty light
these days. For young kids it's much more of an issue. The main
physical danger of wearing a helmet is having it get snagged on
something (tree, chair lift, etc) and if the starp is too loose, the
wearer can get strangled.


I'm constantly amazed at what parents regard as proper bicycle helmet
fit for their spawn (and themselves). Backwards, no straps, loose
straps, worn on the back of the head... It was the same before the
helmets were required, so I can't attribute it to belief in the
worthlessness of helmets. Darwin?

Well, kids are fussy about helmets until they're used to them, and many
parents don't trouble to find a real good fit anyway, apparently
reasoning that such a thing is virtually impossible. When the helmet
does fit right, the parents are not very good on insisting that it be
worn right; IME it's the rule, not the exception, for the chinstrap of a
small child's helmet to be, not under the chin, but somewhere in the
small child's mouth serving as a pacifier.

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Mary Malmros
Some days you're the windshield, other days you're the bug.