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my first try on inline skates
"Ken Roberts" wrote in message
news Next challenge is that I'd like the option of putting some slower 80 mm wheels on them for some kinds of ski-specific training. But the current wheels have these new micro bearings, so I'm afraid I'll have to figure out where to get the right axles to take the other style of bearings. Ken, The axles are the one thing you don't need to change to fit non-micro bearing wheels. Both 688 (micro) and 608 (standard) bearings use 8mm axles, which is what the TR Mag Elites have. You need wheels with 608 bearings and standard bearing spacers. Any inline shop or internet supplier has them. But, unless you fit really crappy bearings (difficult to buy new - extract from 2 pairs of very old Swedski Classic rollerskis!), you'll hardly notice any reduction in speed. All 80mm wheels are intended to be fast - there's only minimal difference between makes. It would be a shame to try to slow down your skates; why not enjoy the pleasure of them as they are, and revert to rollerskis for drudgery (sorry, make that hard, productive ski-specific training). I'm back in after a morning of cruising on my Salomon TR Mag Elite skates. The thought of having to get out and work on rollerskis, especially rubber-wheeled classic ones, I'm willing to postpone until I absolutely have to. But then my skiing ambitions are less than modest. You'll find lots of info about skates and bearings (ad nauseam) looking through the rec.sport.skating.inline newsgroup. Bill |
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my first try on inline skates
"Ken Roberts" wrote in message newscM_a.100140$0v4.6927568@bgtnsc04-n ews.ops.worldnet.att.net... Next challenge is that I'd like the option of putting some slower 80 mm wheels on them for some kinds of ski-specific training. But the current wheels have these new micro bearings, so I'm afraid I'll have to figure out where to get the right axles to take the other style of bearings. Ken, FWIW, my K2 skates, which I bought about 8 years ago, came with 72mm wheels, which is what the Jenex (V2) slow inline wheels are also. With 2 of the slow ("Carbonic") wheels on , my skate speed is close to fast snow speed. My old skates also accept 80MM wheels, which I fit for the 2 skate races I've done. I'm thinking that it's pretty likely that your skates would accept the 72s. I'm not aware of any other slow wheels for inlines. I suppose the other option is to inject some heavy grease into normal wheels. I've never felt the need to clean out my wheels, and over the years, the normal wheels have slowed down to close to the same resistance as the Carbonics. Hope this helps, Erik Brooks Seattle |
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my first try on inline skates
Thanks for the idea, Erik -- but I'm confused on one point (that may not be
important): The Jenex website (www.jenex.com/msrp.html) says that the slow Carbonics wheels are 70 mm, not 72 mm. When I do web searches on other sites for wheels, it's not easy to find 70 mm wheels -- but lots of 72 mm. Maybe there's a mistake in the website? Otherwise, what is the right way to "mix" 70 and 72 mm wheels on the same skate? Or is the difference in 2 mm just not significant? I'm too new to this inline game to know. The Jenex website also shows an 80 mm inline wheel (item W 80S). I've heard that those wheels have slower urethane plastic than other wheels. Any experience with those? Ken |
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my first try on inline skates
Janne G wrote:
if you where after a "short" wheelbase skate then you picked a long wheelbase 4-wheeler. I'm so new to the inline game, I didn't even know there was much difference in frame length among 4-wheel skates. I just got swayed by the feel of the boot. I hope the Mag Elite wheelbase is shorter than a 5-wheel skate, so at least I avoided going that long. So far, the Mag Elites seem much more maneuverable than rollerskis, so I'm happy with my choice so far. If it seems like I want more than that, I'll try your idea of switching frames. Ken |
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my first try on inline skates
Ken,
The Carbonics instructions say to put them in the frontmost and rearmost positions, and that's what I've done. Frankly, I wasn't aware that Jenex calls them 70mm, though I have noticed occasionally when I'm just gliding down a hill and looking at my feet that the front wheels are not turning, so it makes sense that they may be a tiny bit smaller diameter. I always attributed that to the 'rocker' effect plus my trying to weight my heels. Erik ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Roberts" To: "Multiple recipients of list NORDIC-SKI" Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 3:18 AM Subject: my first try on inline skates Thanks for the idea, Erik -- but I'm confused on one point (that may not be important): The Jenex website (www.jenex.com/msrp.html) says that the slow Carbonics wheels are 70 mm, not 72 mm. When I do web searches on other sites for wheels, it's not easy to find 70 mm wheels -- but lots of 72 mm. Maybe there's a mistake in the website? Otherwise, what is the right way to "mix" 70 and 72 mm wheels on the same skate? Or is the difference in 2 mm just not significant? I'm too new to this inline game to know. The Jenex website also shows an 80 mm inline wheel (item W 80S). I've heard that those wheels have slower urethane plastic than other wheels. Any experience with those? Ken |
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my first try on inline skates
Ken Roberts wrote:
And a shorter 4-wheel-base for easy quick maneuvers -- and maybe learning some show-off _tricks_ (an unknown realm for this newsgroup?) There is a character around the twin cities who has the bottoms of his marwe 610's ground up as if he were doing rail slides, ollies up to retaining walls. He has even added platic corner guards to beef up the sliding surface. I get a big kick out of imaging him at Third Lair on the half pipe and pool getting air on roller skis. That's Dave! (So are there any heat-moldable XC ski boots?) Almost the entire line of Rossi XC boots from Xium on down to the entry level touring models are heat moldable. It's a great option for people with big bone protrusions, bunions, etc. Jim Farrell (I ski only profil and pilot however) |
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my first try on inline skates
Ken Roberts wrote:
And a shorter 4-wheel-base for easy quick maneuvers -- and maybe learning some show-off _tricks_ (an unknown realm for this newsgroup?) There is a character around the twin cities who has the bottoms of his marwe 610's ground up as if he were doing rail slides, ollies up to retaining walls. He has even added platic corner guards to beef up the sliding surface. I get a big kick out of imaging him at Third Lair on the half pipe and pool getting air on roller skis. That's Dave! (So are there any heat-moldable XC ski boots?) Almost the entire line of Rossi XC boots from Xium on down to the entry level touring models are heat moldable. (The foam inside, not the boot itself --- I really tough fit cases. we can have our boot fitter insert forming guru shape the shell as well with any brand, i think . . .) It's a great option for people with big bone protrusions, bunions, etc. Jim Farrell (I ski only profil and pilot however) |
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