Skier etiquette

I've seen faster skiers pass with no warnings given, only to startle the
slower skiers who had no idea anybody was behind them. It can be a
disastrous reaction.

I do the same thing when I'm biking, just think it's common courtesy.

BC

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This is retarded. Do you honk each time you pass a car on the freeway?
Trails are usually more than wide enough to accompany two skiers (a
fast one and yourself) without the faster one having to call out a
warning each time. Not to sound like a complete asshole (it's hard,
trust me), but if I'm skiing at a place like Royal Gorge I'd go hoarse
by the end of the day calling out a warning each time I went past
someone. I just give people a wide berth, go around (instead of
yelling track and expecting them to move), and on occasion saying
hello.

Each sport has its own ettiquette. I don't know what the rules are in
cycling (though the weekend Lance Armstrongs who regularly blow by me
don't say anything and I don't care). I have a suggestion - since you
are obviously a newbie, why don't you find out first what the sport's
etiquette is before you start lecturing us about what it should be?
I've been skiing over 30 years and occasionaly some clown (maybe once
every couple of years) will holler at me for not warning him. The last
time was some bearded-weirdo granola muncher, obviously from Berkeley,
who chewed me out after slipping by his out-of-control body while going
down a hill. I almost threw him into a snowbank.

Ok, guys (GC, JFT, and the rest), let me have it.

bt






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I've seen faster skiers pass with no warnings given, only to startle
the
slower skiers who had no idea anybody was behind them. It can be a
disastrous reaction.

I do the same thing when I'm biking, just think it's common courtesy.


BC

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You just made me bust out laughing sknyski.
Thanks.
Gotta love it when people let down their political politeness and just give
their thoughts.
I wanted to tell the guy who asked about dogs on the trail to "keep your
stupid dog at home and let him run in your back yard" but I didnt.
Wish I had now.
JK

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This is retarded. Do you honk each time you pass a car on the freeway?
Trails are usually more than wide enough to accompany two skiers (a
fast one and yourself) without the faster one having to call out a
warning each time. Not to sound like a complete asshole (it's hard,
trust me), but if I'm skiing at a place like Royal Gorge I'd go hoarse
by the end of the day calling out a warning each time I went past
someone. I just give people a wide berth, go around (instead of
yelling track and expecting them to move), and on occasion saying
hello.

Each sport has its own ettiquette. I don't know what the rules are in
cycling (though the weekend Lance Armstrongs who regularly blow by me
don't say anything and I don't care). I have a suggestion - since you
are obviously a newbie, why don't you find out first what the sport's
etiquette is before you start lecturing us about what it should be?
I've been skiing over 30 years and occasionaly some clown (maybe once
every couple of years) will holler at me for not warning him. The last
time was some bearded-weirdo granola muncher, obviously from Berkeley,
who chewed me out after slipping by his out-of-control body while going
down a hill. I almost threw him into a snowbank.

Ok, guys (GC, JFT, and the rest), let me have it.

bt






wrote:
I've seen faster skiers pass with no warnings given, only to startle
the
slower skiers who had no idea anybody was behind them. It can be a
disastrous reaction.

I do the same thing when I'm biking, just think it's common courtesy.


BC

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32 degrees wrote:

You just made me bust out laughing sknyski.
Thanks.
Gotta love it when people let down their political politeness and just give
their thoughts.

There's no need to become PC about this at all, the (unwritten) rules
are pretty obvious:

When in a race, do whatever you like (I won't be competing against you
anyway, right?)

When out skiing in Nordmarka or anywhere else with set tracks the only
rules I teach my kids are these:

The person overtaking is always responsible. This means waiting politely
behind until you can pass safely.

When meeting another skier, keep to the right.

When meeting on a narrow (single-track) trail, the person coming
downhill will usually have right-of-way, or rather: The person coming
up-hill can more easily step sideways out of the tracks.

Is there anywhere in the world where you don't do it like this?

Terje
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Terje Mathisen wrote:

When meeting another skier, keep to the right.

There aren=B4t too many trails with single classical tracks anymore, but
that rule, as marvellously simple as it is, often tended to result in
the ridiculous situation where *both* skiers stepped out of the tracks!
If one skier wanted to indicate that he=B4d be readily the one to yield
(before age or beauty), he had to step out 50m ahead:-)


(BTW the exception to this rule is, of course, that a lone skier
usually moves aside for a train or group of skiers.)


Anders

Anders wrote:

Terje Mathisen wrote:


When meeting another skier, keep to the right.


There aren´t too many trails with single classical tracks anymore, but
that rule, as marvellously simple as it is, often tended to result in
the ridiculous situation where *both* skiers stepped out of the tracks!
If one skier wanted to indicate that he´d be readily the one to yield
(before age or beauty), he had to step out 50m ahead:-)

Oh, yes, and when they do, as often happen if they are skiing relatively
slowly, and I'm out there all dressed in lycra, I always say a sincere
'Tusen Takk' (Thank You).

Many skiers in Nordmarka have adopted a half-way solution though: We'll
step half-way out of the track, to the right, so that our left ski is in
the right half of the track, and the right ski is outside in the loose
stuff.

When both skiers do this, they can ski at nearly the same speed, without
having to stop or get all snowy.


(BTW the exception to this rule is, of course, that a lone skier
usually moves aside for a train or group of skiers.)

Right.

Terje

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On 23 Jan 2005 07:53:59 -0800, "sknyski" wrote:

This is retarded. Do you honk each time you pass a car on the freeway?

Exactly.


Each sport has its own ettiquette.

The downhill skiers have precedence in skiing is particular to skiing
and makes sense. But the concept of "warning" someone in passing is
universally retarded regardless of whether you're on a bike, in car,
running, cycling, whatever. The only time a warning like that has
value is if you are passing someone really close. But passing someone
that close is obnoxious in a public space. If you are overtakign
someone, it's your responsiblity to not buzz them. And if you're not
buzzing them, the honking, hupping, tracking, on your lefting is
retarded. Just say hello after you pass if you have to say anything.

JFT



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Sure, one comment doesn't exclude others. I find "on your left" (often
add "hi") in an appropriate tone usually suffices for both a warning and
a greeting. If the alert isn't necessary, then a "hello" comes as I
draw up alongside. Then there's the "Hello" of a different kind that
follows an unheard or unheeded alert.

Gene


John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:

On 23 Jan 2005 07:53:59 -0800, "sknyski" wrote:

This is retarded. Do you honk each time you pass a car on the freeway?

Exactly.

Each sport has its own ettiquette.

The downhill skiers have precedence in skiing is particular to skiing
and makes sense. But the concept of "warning" someone in passing is
universally retarded regardless of whether you're on a bike, in car,
running, cycling, whatever. The only time a warning like that has
value is if you are passing someone really close. But passing someone
that close is obnoxious in a public space. If you are overtakign
someone, it's your responsiblity to not buzz them. And if you're not
buzzing them, the honking, hupping, tracking, on your lefting is
retarded. Just say hello after you pass if you have to say anything.

JFT

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Gene Goldenfeld wrote:
Sure, one comment doesn't exclude others. I find "on your left"
(often
add "hi") in an appropriate tone usually suffices for both a warning
and
a greeting.


No, honking may not work sometimes, unintentionally. One time one
faster skier was behind me on a public trail. He passed me and while on
my side he gave me a lecture saying that he yelled for track. With cold
snow whick made "crunching" sound, and wearing head gear (head band
that cover my ears) I really couldn't hear the guy. I said "I didn't
hear you, yell LOUDER." I usually am not the slowest skier on the
trail, when I pass I wait till I find a wide section to step out to
pass. Let us respect everyone's ski skills. This could be different
when I am racing.

On 24 Jan 2005 19:10:28 -0800, "JP(CA)" wrote:

One time one
faster skier was behind me on a public trail. He passed me and while on
my side he gave me a lecture saying that he yelled for track. With cold
snow whick made "crunching" sound, and wearing head gear (head band
that cover my ears) I really couldn't hear the guy. I said "I didn't
hear you, yell LOUDER."

You forgot something, you shoud have said, "I didn't hear you, yell
LOUDER, jackass."

JFT

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