Inline (skeelers) and ice-skates with XC ski boots

I don't inline skate or roller ski myself (prefer cycling)
but these inline skates (or skeelers as they are called in Dutch)
which are used with a normal XC ski boot might be of interest
to some:

(from Free-Skate in the Netherlands)

"http://www.free-skate.com/engels/index.htm"
(click "FREE-SKATE for ice, FREE-ROLLER-SKATE for skeelers)
(or go directly to
"http://www.free-skate.com/engels/free-skate.htm"
"http://www.free-skate.com/engels/free-skeeler.htm"

The skeelers are shown with Salomon Pilot bindings but probably
SNS profile or even NNN-2 bindings would work.

The ice-skates they sell look a lot like the Almgrens (Sweden)
models.

The techniques of inline-skating ("skeeling" ? "Skeelering" ?) are
probably different than ice-skating or skate-skiing so there may or may
not be the same advantages having the free-heel (klap action). Using the
same boots would be an advantage.

I do some ice skating on my Zandstra skates:
"http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/dermott/ski/zandstra.jpg"
or my new Almgrens:
"http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/dermott/ski/almgrens.jpg"

Falling on ice hurts more than falling on snow, but
less than falling on pavement!

--

David Dermott , Wolfville Ridge, Nova Scotia, Canada
email:
WWW pages: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/dermott/

Thanks for sharing that, David - - We know have available to us every
conceivable combination of wheels, boots, and bindings.
http://free-skate.com/engels/images/free-skeeler.jpg

I guess we could consider it the world's first commercial 5-wheel rollerski.
Or maybe it's not a rollerski because the wheels are too tight together. If
they insert 3 cm of space between the front two wheels and the back three,
does it then qualify as a _real_ rollerski? What about 5 cm space? or does
it take 10 cm?

I notice they only offer it with a Pilot binding. Which is fitting with the
concern I've been having that my new-found love for inline skating is going
to force me to switch to Pilot for my XC ski skating -- because I'm going to
become too accustomed to the tighter connection of my heel to my gliding
mechanism.

It's interesting to compare those with some of the models on
http://home1.gte.net/pjbemail/KlapSk8.html
and page down to "Team Solomon", and also compare with
http://salomoninline.com/pdf03/2346us.pdf
in Salomon's current product line.

Ken

To all these combinations of wheels, blades and bindings I can only
add
that Roxa(skating brand) use to have 2-wheel rollerski with pivoting
platform
that accepted skating boot (sort of like "Enduro" rollerski).

I would strenuously object 5-wheel rollerski classification by Ken.
Rollerski has to have boot base at the same or lower level as wheel
axle.
Anything above that is a skate, whether 5 or 2-wheel.

And don't get exited about clap-skate. Solid ice skating reputation
notwithstanding they are abandoned in inline skating, for now at
least,
in favor of 100mm frames.

On 30 Sep 2003, Serge wrote:


Rollerski has to have boot base at the same or lower level as wheel
axle.
Anything above that is a skate, whether 5 or 2-wheel.

Hmm, that is an interesting definition of the difference
between a roller-ski and a roller-skate.

So I guess the Eagle Sport Skater, sold by Jamie Hess at Nordic Skater,
is really a roller-ski since the wheel axle is at base level.

"http://www.nordicskater.com/eagle/skater.html"

Review of Eagle Sport at:
"http://www.dartmouth.edu/~jaydavis/fssc/features/eaglesport.html"

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David Dermott , Wolfville Ridge, Nova Scotia, Canada
email:
WWW pages: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/dermott/

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mitch Collinsworth" wrote:
Wandering even further off topic, I
was extremely surprised when I
walked into a shop yesterday looking
for ice skates for our 2.5
year old twins and discovered
expandable skates. Ice skates that
you press a button on the side of and
adjust the size by sliding
the heel and toe together or apart.
One end slides inside the other
end somewhere in the middle and it all
looks like a normal plastic
boot style skate once you stop sliding
it. They had 3 sizes of
these: 8-11, 11-1, and 13-3 (kids
sizes).

So instead of walking out with a
couple used pairs of skates that
will hopefully fit the kids this
winter once I got them home to
try them on them, I walked out with 2
brand new pairs that will
definitely fit them for 2 years!


A couple of years ago, I bought some
in-line skates for my daughter that do
this too. I think they cost only $50
full price, and as far as I could see,
there is no downside to them. K2 brand,
IIRC.

Erik Brooks

On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Erik Brooks wrote:

A couple of years ago, I bought some
in-line skates for my daughter that do
this too. I think they cost only $50
full price, and as far as I could see,
there is no downside to them. K2 brand,
IIRC.

Thanks for the note. I purposely shielded my eyes when I sensed
in-line skates coming into view. At 2.5 years, my kids are quite
accomplished at falling down without any assistance from wheels! :-)

"Maybe next year" :-)

-Mitch

David Dermott wrote in message ...

So I guess the Eagle Sport Skater, sold by Jamie Hess at Nordic Skater,
is really a roller-ski since the wheel axle is at base level.

Ther is another similar contraption avaliable in Holland - Twinliner
http://www.nikhef.nl/~marcok/twin/index_ned.html

Not much different from Eagle skate, but market as true skate and has
a speed skating boot and (wouldn't you know it)- two rollerski wheels.

I must say that in addition of having lower height(see my previous
mess.), rollerski has to be 530mm or longer.

I've watched my 6-year-old and 9-year-old nieces practice inline skate
"performance routines", during which they deliberately flop onto the
pavement several times and laugh.

I have it in video clips. Not my idea of fun. But they have less far to
fall than I do.

Ken