Replace single, old, Swix Team CT2 Pole shaft

Today I broke the shaft of one of my apprx. six year old
Swix Team CT2 pole shafts.

If I can find a single shaft, will it match the surviving pole
even 6 years later? Has Swix changed these poles?

If so, any ideas where to find the shaft? I just converted my
roller ski poles back to snow poles, so I am not in a huge hurry.

If it matters, these are 175 cm.

Thanks in advance,


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On 11 Feb 2007 17:38:19 -0500, wrote:


Today I broke the shaft of one of my apprx. six year old
Swix Team CT2 pole shafts.

If I can find a single shaft, will it match the surviving pole
even 6 years later? Has Swix changed these poles?

If so, any ideas where to find the shaft?

www.newmoonski.com probably. But it might be more cost effective to
look for a late season deal on a pair of the same poles and keep your
old pole as a spare. Eg I think www.reliableracing.com has CT2 fairly
cheap right now.
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John Forrest Tomlinson writes:

John On 11 Feb 2007 17:38:19 -0500, wrote:

Today I broke the shaft of one of my apprx. six year old
Swix Team CT2 pole shafts.

If I can find a single shaft, will it match the surviving pole
even 6 years later? Has Swix changed these poles?

If so, any ideas where to find the shaft?

John www.newmoonski.com probably. But it might be more cost effective to

They do, but there is no pricing on their website. I called, but got
a machine, so I emailed them.

John look for a late season deal on a pair of the same poles and keep your
John old pole as a spare. Eg I think www.reliableracing.com has CT2 fairly
John cheap right now.

Wonderful price, but only size left is 35 cm too short for me.

Thanks your your response, some other places do seem to have some
pretty good prices for pairs.

From the Swix literature, the new poles may be noticeably stiffer, so
probably a pair is a better idea, with the old one as an emergency backup.

Luckily the pole broke near the tip, so I will use the broken shaft as
a classic backup shaft. Nothing wasted but the 7cm at the end of the shaft.


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Wasn't there someone in MN who posted here last summer about fixing
broken shafts?

wrote:

John Forrest Tomlinson writes:

John On 11 Feb 2007 17:38:19 -0500,
John wrote:

Today I broke the shaft of one of my apprx. six year old
Swix Team CT2 pole shafts.

If I can find a single shaft, will it match the surviving pole
even 6 years later? Has Swix changed these poles?

If so, any ideas where to find the shaft?

John www.newmoonski.com probably. But it might be more cost
John effective to

They do, but there is no pricing on their website. I called, but got
a machine, so I emailed them.

John look for a late season deal on a pair of the same poles and
John keep your old pole as a spare. Eg I think
John www.reliableracing.com has CT2 fairly cheap right now.

Wonderful price, but only size left is 35 cm too short for me.

Thanks your your response, some other places do seem to have some
pretty good prices for pairs.

From the Swix literature, the new poles may be noticeably stiffer, so
probably a pair is a better idea, with the old one as an emergency
backup.

Luckily the pole broke near the tip, so I will use the broken shaft as
a classic backup shaft. Nothing wasted but the 7cm at the end of the
shaft.


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Andrew Hall
(Now reading Usenet in rec.skiing.nordic...)

On Feb 11, 2:09 pm, wrote:
John Forrest Tomlinson writes:

John On 11 Feb 2007 17:38:19 -0500, wrote:

Today I broke the shaft of one of my apprx. six year old
Swix Team CT2 pole shafts.

If I can find a single shaft, will it match the surviving pole
even 6 years later? Has Swix changed these poles?

If so, any ideas where to find the shaft?

Johnwww.newmoonski.comprobably. But it might be more cost effective to

They do, but there is no pricing on their website. I called, but got
a machine, so I emailed them.

John look for a late season deal on a pair of the same poles and keep your
John old pole as a spare. Eg I thinkwww.reliableracing.comhas CT2 fairly
John cheap right now.

Wonderful price, but only size left is 35 cm too short for me.

Thanks your your response, some other places do seem to have some
pretty good prices for pairs.

From the Swix literature, the new poles may be noticeably stiffer, so
probably a pair is a better idea, with the old one as an emergency backup.

Luckily the pole broke near the tip, so I will use the broken shaft as
a classic backup shaft. Nothing wasted but the 7cm at the end of the shaft.

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(Now reading Usenet in rec.skiing.nordic...)

As a contrary opinion, I believe you'd never even perceive the
difference in either swing weight or stiffness between your old shaft
and a *comparable quality* new shaft of the same brand, except for the
color and/or graphics. Or if you did perceive a difference, it would
be insignficant.

If it were me, rather than buy a pair, I'd buy a replacement shaft of
the same brand, in whatever line is most similar to my old one.

Now, I do believe you'd notice the difference if the two poles were of
different grades - for example if one were a mid-grade shaft and the
other a top of the line.

Just my opinion though.

On 12 Feb 2007 11:38:51 -0800, "Camilo" wrote:

If it were me, rather than buy a pair, I'd buy a replacement shaft of
the same brand, in whatever line is most similar to my old one.

Have you looked at prices?

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On 12 Feb 2007 11:38:51 -0800, "Camilo" wrote:

If it were me, rather than buy a pair, I'd buy a replacement shaft of
the same brand, in whatever line is most similar to my old one.

Have you looked at prices?

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I'm not sure what the point is. No, I haven't looked at prices
recently and maybe he could find some close out poles which would make
buying a whole new pair worth while. But last year when I broke a Swix
Star pole it was certainly a lot cheaper to buy a new shaft and re-use
the grip and basket from the broken pole ... than to buy a new pair.
Much less than 1/2 the price, more like 25%. I would imagine that
with the OP's CT2's, finding a very similar replacement shaft would
show the same savings. Like I said, I seriously doubt (but of course
can't guarantee) that the OP would not notice any subtle difference
in swing weight or stiffness of a like-qualtiy new shaft.

On 12 Feb 2007 19:44:19 -0800, "Camilo" wrote:

On Feb 12, 3:00 pm, John Forrest Tomlinson
wrote:
On 12 Feb 2007 11:38:51 -0800, "Camilo" wrote:

If it were me, rather than buy a pair, I'd buy a replacement shaft of
the same brand, in whatever line is most similar to my old one.

Have you looked at prices?

I'm not sure what the point is.

The point is that what I've seen is single shafts cost half the price
of a complete pair of poles, or more.

No, I haven't looked at prices
recently and maybe he could find some close out poles which would make
buying a whole new pair worth while. But last year when I broke a Swix
Star pole it was certainly a lot cheaper to buy a new shaft and re-use
the grip and basket from the broken pole ... than to buy a new pair.
Much less than 1/2 the price, more like 25%.

Where did you get that pricing?
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JT:

The point is that what I've seen is single shafts cost half the price
of a complete pair of poles, or more.

Me:

No, I haven't looked at prices
recently and maybe he could find some close out poles which would make
buying a whole new pair worth while. But last year when I broke a Swix
Star pole it was certainly a lot cheaper to buy a new shaft and re-use
the grip and basket from the broken pole ... than to buy a new pair.
Much less than 1/2 the price, more like 25%.

JT:

Where did you get that pricing?

Me again:

OK, my memory is a little vague, but the deal was, I got a shaft for
about $85 locally and it was cut down by the shop so I didn't have to
mess with it. Could have been $80, could have been $90, but I'm sure
it was substantially less than $100, I really think $85 or less. At
the time, local retail on the Star CT1 was about $250-260. This was
mid-season, no close out's available. Figuring from that, it was
about 1/3 or so the price of the new pair.

I just took a glance at the Reliable Racing web site and they have the
CT1's on sale for about $180 plus shipping, so my price would have
still been about 1/2.

To me, 1/2 is 1/2 and I'd still buy a replacement shaft rather than a
whole new pair, leaving one spare pole, unless the match was way off
or the grips were shot or some such thing. My poles had virtually new
grips and baskets. I might even be vain enough to let the cosmetics
affect the decision. If I'd ever need that spare pole because of
another broken, I'd spend the other 1/2 at that point and buy it. But
I don't break poles very often, maybe one every 3-5 years (including
striding and skating), so more aggressive skiers/breakers might have a
different POV.

Another option is to repair the pole. I just broke one of my excel
skating poles the other day, and am in the process of repairing it. I
broke one of my classic poles a few years ago, and am still skiing on
it. If you are at the level of skiing, that the extra weight from the
repair, will affect your performance, or you don't have the time, or
extra poles, then I aggree with John, to buy a new set of poles, and
keep your old one as a spare. Swix poles have not changed in their
diameter, just graffics, and some composition changes since you bought
yours. The swing weight of the new swix team will be probably
different, but I don't think you will notice the difference. I have a
replacement shaft for my excel Avanti Formula poles, but choose to
repair it, to save the new shaft for a time when the broken one is
unrepairable. I just found a wood dole, that was a little bigger than
the shaft, cut it so that that about 3" went either into either
section, ground it down to just fit inside pole, than got some
automotive fiberglass resin, applied it to the dole, and pushed both
pole ends together. Let that dry over nite, then I got some fiberglass
mesh, cut it to length, mixed more resin, and applied the mesh so that
it rapped around pole at least 3 times. Let that dry, grind it smooth,
then apply another layer of mesh and resin,,,,,,,,let it
harden,,,,,,,,,,grind it smooth,and your good to go. At my level,,,I
can't notice the extra weight, and has never given me a problem.