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Brother Down
Isn't that what Harley dudes say when one of theirs crashes? (Help with
punctuation on "theirs" appreciated if necessary.) How many of you have had a torn lateral meniscus in the knee and have had it repaired? Mine tore during hyperextension while slipping when mowing the lawn. That yard work is dangerous stuff. Please- only stories of successful surgery and quick recoveries. BTW the doc that I used, who I traveled some distance to get to because of his well deserved reputation for excellence says that it'll only get worse if nothing is done. I guess it's back to the boat for a while. Feel free to top post. Gary Jacobson Rosendale, NY |
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Brother Down
Can't tell you of successful surgery and quick recovery, but I can tell =
you I have an appointment with an orthopedic surgeon next Wednesday for = a knee injury. June "Gary Jacobson" wrote in message = ... Isn't that what Harley dudes say when one of theirs crashes? (Help = with punctuation on "theirs" appreciated if necessary.) =20 How many of you have had a torn lateral meniscus in the knee and have = had it repaired? Mine tore during hyperextension while slipping when mowing the lawn. = That yard work is dangerous stuff. =20 Please- only stories of successful surgery and quick recoveries. =20 BTW the doc that I used, who I traveled some distance to get to = because of his well deserved reputation for excellence says that it'll only get = worse if nothing is done. =20 I guess it's back to the boat for a while. =20 Feel free to top post. =20 Gary Jacobson Rosendale, NY =20 =20 |
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Brother Down
Sorry to hear it Gary. First tear at 15, three months after rupturing
my ACL. In those days they thought the latter was vestigial. About 11 years ago I did more damage to that cartilege and, after getting nowhere with Kaiser for 18 months, went to a knee specialist who did a great job (have the video). Because I wasn't working through their clinic, my rehab was largely on my own. Took a 20 mile cross-style road bike ride at 2 wks and a 10 mile each way weekend backpack in the Sierras at 4 weeks (6k-10k altitude). My knee was badly swollen and I won't claim that this regimen was the smartest, but then I don't really have a comparison. Some docs are very conservative re recovery and some not. Had to give up tennis and skating was hard to take for several years. Docs probably won't give you petri dish grown cartilege because of your age, but it's worth asking. In any event, diligent rehab in the post-operative months is key for longer term benefit. As Lisa can probably tell you, the knee is a joint and strengthening around it helps compensate for any weakness. Quads, hamstrings, calves. Do be careful, since full motion leg extensions can be hard on it. I do 30 degree max and they work well. It's going to be a lifelong project. There is the longer term issue, which is much debated in the field. My sense is that bad 5-year results come from sedentary types, but athletes do much better. But it will never be the same. Gene Gary Jacobson wrote: Isn't that what Harley dudes say when one of theirs crashes? (Help with punctuation on "theirs" appreciated if necessary.) How many of you have had a torn lateral meniscus in the knee and have had it repaired? Mine tore during hyperextension while slipping when mowing the lawn. That yard work is dangerous stuff. Please- only stories of successful surgery and quick recoveries. BTW the doc that I used, who I traveled some distance to get to because of his well deserved reputation for excellence says that it'll only get worse if nothing is done. I guess it's back to the boat for a while. Feel free to top post. Gary Jacobson Rosendale, NY |
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Brother Down
I had medial meniscus surgury two years ago (age 60). The meniscus had torn
near one end and the flap had folded under and was causing a lot of pain under my kneecap. I went in for orthroscopic surgury, and was home the same day, on crutches, with ice packs and Tylenol. I was walking without crutches within 48 hours, and went for my first ski three weeks later (it was classic, short, and probably too soon, but it was December, and I'm not a patient man). The doc prescribed straight-leg quad lifts, building up to three sets of 15 with 15llbs strapped to my ankle, and said as long as I did those daily, I'd be fine. If your operation looks straightforward, I highly recommend it, but do it in the summer. Good luck! Tim on 18/6/04 18:15, Gary Jacobson wrote: Isn't that what Harley dudes say when one of theirs crashes? (Help with punctuation on "theirs" appreciated if necessary.) How many of you have had a torn lateral meniscus in the knee and have had it repaired? Mine tore during hyperextension while slipping when mowing the lawn. That yard work is dangerous stuff. Please- only stories of successful surgery and quick recoveries. BTW the doc that I used, who I traveled some distance to get to because of his well deserved reputation for excellence says that it'll only get worse if nothing is done. I guess it's back to the boat for a while. Feel free to top post. Gary Jacobson Rosendale, NY |
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Brother Down
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Hash: SHA1 "Gary Jacobson" writes: How many of you have had a torn lateral meniscus in the knee and have had it repaired? A car hit me head on while I was riding my bike which resulted in a torn meniscus in addition to completely severed anterior and posterior cruciate ligaments in my left knee. The orthopaedist only repaired the meniscus. On account of my age (I was 33 at the time) he felt the repair had a 50-50 chance of success. This was 1990. I believe that knee surgery has had some incremental improvements in the intervening period. Mine tore during hyperextension while slipping when mowing the lawn. That yard work is dangerous stuff. Please- only stories of successful surgery and quick recoveries. Despite your plea, what took me from an initial assesment of "You'll be able walk again if you're lucky" to riding in the 1993 USCF Master's National Championship Road Race was many, many hours of grueling physical therapy. BTW the doc that I used, who I traveled some distance to get to because of his well deserved reputation for excellence says that it'll only get worse if nothing is done. I believe (however, I am neither a physician nor a therapist) that the physical therapy is more important than the surgery. Ask your surgeon who he would see for therapy! I guess it's back to the boat for a while. I hope to meet you at Van Hoevenberg this Winter! Good luck! Feel free to top post. Gary Jacobson Rosendale, NY Sincerely, David (for the geekly, the fingerprint has my email address) - -- gnupg fingerprint: 4055 65EC 24D1 1DC2 700C 6654 6009 4AB9 F4C3 3E7E -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iD8DBQFA1paPYAlKufTDPn4RAsIxAJ9w0a8Klcbm8F5mRynn2p txQkblowCfRRc+ 2JHGoG1JPtV1z1xsYK93TCY= =u7YU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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Brother Down
My team mate had a meniscus tear repaired last summer. Yesterday, when
i asked him, he said his knee is fine, 'like nothing ever happened.' i had a successful acl repair over five years ago. A soccer injury. (before i started skiing competitively) i was lucky, my neighbor who is a scrub nurse asked around and got a short list of surgeons for me to consider. she told me to stay away from the guy i originally went to see for a diagnosis. definitely find a sports oriented ortho doc! I was off crutches in less than two days, my leg never atrophied because you can do almost anything including play outfield without an acl. After the repair, i was able to kneel and play soccer again . . . Good as new, if not stronger (they put a beefier ligament in there farmed from a cadaver's patella tendon, or from your own) -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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Brother Down
You picked the wrong doc. By 1990, orthopedists knew enough about
ligaments to make repairs. Five years later it was near standard for someone 33. Within a couple more docs were growing cartilege for implant. People often don't realize until too late when they're dealing with a "conservative" diagnostician. Gene david emile lamy wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 "Gary Jacobson" writes: How many of you have had a torn lateral meniscus in the knee and have had it repaired? A car hit me head on while I was riding my bike which resulted in a torn meniscus in addition to completely severed anterior and posterior cruciate ligaments in my left knee. The orthopaedist only repaired the meniscus. On account of my age (I was 33 at the time) he felt the repair had a 50-50 chance of success. This was 1990. I believe that knee surgery has had some incremental improvements in the intervening period. Mine tore during hyperextension while slipping when mowing the lawn. That yard work is dangerous stuff. Please- only stories of successful surgery and quick recoveries. Despite your plea, what took me from an initial assesment of "You'll be able walk again if you're lucky" to riding in the 1993 USCF Master's National Championship Road Race was many, many hours of grueling physical therapy. BTW the doc that I used, who I traveled some distance to get to because of his well deserved reputation for excellence says that it'll only get worse if nothing is done. I believe (however, I am neither a physician nor a therapist) that the physical therapy is more important than the surgery. Ask your surgeon who he would see for therapy! I guess it's back to the boat for a while. I hope to meet you at Van Hoevenberg this Winter! Good luck! Feel free to top post. Gary Jacobson Rosendale, NY Sincerely, David (for the geekly, the fingerprint has my email address) - -- gnupg fingerprint: 4055 65EC 24D1 1DC2 700C 6654 6009 4AB9 F4C3 3E7E -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iD8DBQFA1paPYAlKufTDPn4RAsIxAJ9w0a8Klcbm8F5mRynn2p txQkblowCfRRc+ 2JHGoG1JPtV1z1xsYK93TCY= =u7YU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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Cousin (was Brother) Down
My cousin Morten is an orienteer like me, but after multiple knee
problems & operations, he can't run any more. He'd like to get a pair of classic roller skis (skating is also out :-() with brakes/speed reducers. What do you all recommend? Terje PS. For his 40th birtday he got a Vasaloppet bib, now he needs to get into shape again so he can use it. -- - "almost all programming can be viewed as an exercise in caching" |
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Cousin (was Brother) Down
Seems that Jenex is the only way to go if you want the most options for
reducing speed and real brakes. www.jenex.com Interesting discussion recently about classic wheel speed. I think that it takes more skill to ski on a fast ski when doing anything but double pole no kick. I've been told from people in the Pro Ski camp that my Jenex 920's "are too slow". Too tough for a long work out. I've considered going to the fastest wheels-930. But now I'm not so sure after reading Rob Bradley's post. Jenex would say speed is irrelevant, it's the metabolic demands when using them that is important, and if you want to prepare for ski racing then "slow" roller skis match the demands of skiing. But then am I "racing" as a mid pack skier? And then there is an old Swedish study that somehow arrived at the conclusion that skiers need fast and slow, and light and heavy roller skis. (Maybe funded by the International Association of Roller Ski Manufacturers). That was before skating arrived on the scene. So now we need like 8 pairs of roller skis. Gary Jacobson Rosendale, NY AKA: Gary The Snail. And I have the hat to prove it. "Terje Mathisen" wrote in message ... My cousin Morten is an orienteer like me, but after multiple knee problems & operations, he can't run any more. He'd like to get a pair of classic roller skis (skating is also out :-() with brakes/speed reducers. What do you all recommend? Terje PS. For his 40th birtday he got a Vasaloppet bib, now he needs to get into shape again so he can use it. -- - "almost all programming can be viewed as an exercise in caching" |
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Cousin (was Brother) Down
Gary Jacobson wrote:
Seems that Jenex is the only way to go if you want the most options for reducing speed and real brakes. www.jenex.com Interesting discussion recently about classic wheel speed. I think that it takes more skill to ski on a fast ski when doing anything but double pole no kick. I've been told from people in the Pro Ski camp that my Jenex 920's "are too slow". Too tough for a long work out. I've considered going to the fastest wheels-930. Thanks, I've told him to try to get the 920 or 920K, with the alu speed reducers! The only problem is that they dob't list any dealers closer than Finland. :-( Terje But now I'm not so sure after reading Rob Bradley's post. Jenex would say speed is irrelevant, it's the metabolic demands when using them that is important, and if you want to prepare for ski racing then "slow" roller skis match the demands of skiing. But then am I "racing" as a mid pack skier? And then there is an old Swedish study that somehow arrived at the conclusion that skiers need fast and slow, and light and heavy roller skis. (Maybe funded by the International Association of Roller Ski Manufacturers). That was before skating arrived on the scene. So now we need like 8 pairs of roller skis. Gary Jacobson Rosendale, NY AKA: Gary The Snail. And I have the hat to prove it. "Terje Mathisen" wrote in message ... My cousin Morten is an orienteer like me, but after multiple knee problems & operations, he can't run any more. He'd like to get a pair of classic roller skis (skating is also out :-() with brakes/speed reducers. What do you all recommend? Terje PS. For his 40th birtday he got a Vasaloppet bib, now he needs to get into shape again so he can use it. -- - "almost all programming can be viewed as an exercise in caching" -- - "almost all programming can be viewed as an exercise in caching" |
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