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Old April 15th 06, 09:13 PM
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Simon Isbister wrote:

Yeah- in alot of situations, going up on skins seems not too different (in
terms of speed and energy) than snowshoeing. Its the downhill portions of
the trip that make skis a far more efficient means of travel than snowshoes.
So, if you are going to be taking the skis off and putting on a board
anyways... why not snowshoe?


Skis are much easier than shoes over level ground because you can
get some glide. If it's straight up on soft, sinky snow then I
guess S-S would make a lot of sense, but anything much lateral skis
should put you ahead.

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Old April 16th 06, 08:38 AM
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On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 19:50:29 GMT, "Simon Isbister"
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"Champ" wrote in message
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However, everyone who'd used them said the really didn't work very
well - too little surface area meant they sank too far, and were
barely any less work than snowshoes.


Yeah- in alot of situations, going up on skins seems not too different (in
terms of speed and energy) than snowshoeing.


Hmm, not in my experience, which I must point out is limited to
snowshoeing uphill, often alongside a guide with skis & skins.

It seems to me the action of pushing a skin'd ski forward in the
tramlines is significantly less effort than lifting a snowshow from
one bootprint to the next. And, snowshoeing a broken trail is
mentally harded because you have to focus on planting your foot where
the previous guy did.

When it comes to breaking trail, I suspect skis are still easier, but
I don't have as much experience, so wouldn't like to argue the case
too hard.

Its the downhill portions of
the trip that make skis a far more efficient means of travel than snowshoes.
So, if you are going to be taking the skis off and putting on a board
anyways... why not snowshoe?


Hey, my only reason for going up in the first place is to come down on
the board! You mean there are people out there who go snowshoeing
just to snowshoe? :-)

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Old April 17th 06, 01:09 AM
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"Champ" wrote in message
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On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 19:50:29 GMT, "Simon Isbister"
wrote:
Yeah- in alot of situations, going up on skins seems not too different (in
terms of speed and energy) than snowshoeing.


Hmm, not in my experience, which I must point out is limited to
snowshoeing uphill, often alongside a guide with skis & skins.


Yeah, I don't snowshoe too much myself, but it seems that going uphill would
be the only time that touring skis and snowshoes would be even remotely
comperable I don't see the point of it, but it sure has caught on- must be
SOMETHING to it.

You mean there are people out there who go snowshoeing
just to snowshoe? :-)


My thoughts exactly

-s-


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Old April 17th 06, 11:19 PM
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Kurt Knisely wrote:
Rocket powered toboggan? What if you miss the switchback?


Switchback? Go strait up, gives a good line to follow on the way
down. Who ever taught you how to *rocket toboggan*?
You'll need a periscope too.

Ed Huesers
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Old April 17th 06, 11:20 PM
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Ed Huesers wrote:
Kurt Knisely wrote:
Rocket powered toboggan? What if you miss the switchback?


Switchback? Go strait up, gives a good line to follow on the way
down. Who ever taught you how to *rocket toboggan*?
You'll need a periscope too.


Don't they call those SkiDoos?

-klaus

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Old April 18th 06, 03:20 AM
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Simon Isbister wrote:
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Simon Isbister wrote:


Yeah- in alot of situations, going up on skins seems not too different
(in terms of speed and energy) than snowshoeing. Its the downhill
portions of the trip that make skis a far more efficient means of travel
than snowshoes. So, if you are going to be taking the skis off and
putting on a board anyways... why not snowshoe?


Skis are much easier than shoes over level ground because you can get some
glide. If it's straight up on soft, sinky snow then I guess S-S would
make a lot of sense, but anything much lateral skis should put you ahead.



Yes, certainly- I was picturing an outing with the intention of gaining
altitude, in order to snowboard back down. But don't misunderstand- I don't
snowboard, so it isn't a situation I ever find myself in. I'm certainly not
about to snowshoe up, in order to swap gear and ski down!

-s-


But if you ski up, you still need to remove the skins, so do you have
someone else do it or take off your skis?

Dan
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Old April 18th 06, 03:23 AM
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Simon Isbister wrote:
"Champ" wrote in message
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On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 19:50:29 GMT, "Simon Isbister"
wrote:

Yeah- in alot of situations, going up on skins seems not too different (in
terms of speed and energy) than snowshoeing.


Hmm, not in my experience, which I must point out is limited to
snowshoeing uphill, often alongside a guide with skis & skins.



Yeah, I don't snowshoe too much myself, but it seems that going uphill would
be the only time that touring skis and snowshoes would be even remotely
comperable I don't see the point of it, but it sure has caught on- must be
SOMETHING to it.


You mean there are people out there who go snowshoeing
just to snowshoe? :-)



My thoughts exactly

-s-


Balancing is much easier on snowshoes. Skis take quite a bit more
experience before they become easier, so neophytes like shoes, and some
people who don't like falling like the stability on the downhill sections.


Some people just like a hike in the woods, even when it is white.

Dan
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Old April 18th 06, 07:59 AM
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dan wrote:

But if you ski up, you still need to remove the skins, so do you have
someone else do it or take off your skis?


Neither... with a little practice it's actually quite easy to take skins
off yourself without removing the skis. You don't even have to sit down.

Pete.
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Old April 18th 06, 10:58 AM
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On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 08:59:22 +0100, Peter Clinch
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dan wrote:

But if you ski up, you still need to remove the skins, so do you have
someone else do it or take off your skis?


Neither... with a little practice it's actually quite easy to take skins
off yourself without removing the skis. You don't even have to sit down.


Yebbut, apart from the telemark weirdos, don't you have to remove the
ski to adjust the binding from uphill-free-heel to
downhill-fixed-heel? (You can probably tell that I don't ski :-)
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Champ
 




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