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can one skis be significantly faster
Hi,
had a chance to take my new Fisher RX8 to Snowmass/Loveland Co last week for 4 days. It is pure pleasure and everything what I read was indeed true, at least to the my level I can verify it at. One observation though - I was carving behind my friend and some other guys following their tracks as precisely as possible. The easiness I could catch them up and the speed it happened was just astonishing. Also opposite was true, my friend just could not catch me. So it posses question: is it due to ski itself, skills or what? Andy |
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Walt wrote:
New skis with fresh bases and a good factory supplied wax will have less friction and be faster than old bases. So, yeah, you may be faster. Which may or may not be a good thing. it was significantly faster. I remember year ago the difference between waxed and not-waxed skis and it did not feel so radical. plus we were carving - so I would think that speed on edges is less dependent on the wax. could it be possible the the faster ski bends in the turn the way the my mass is more equally distributed over the edge and thus the overall friction is smaller. but hey, why it might not be good thing? A. |
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On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:53:41 -0600, alf ask@me wrote:
Hi, had a chance to take my new Fisher RX8 to Snowmass/Loveland Co last week for 4 days. It is pure pleasure and everything what I read was indeed true, at least to the my level I can verify it at. One observation though - I was carving behind my friend and some other guys following their tracks as precisely as possible. The easiness I could catch them up and the speed it happened was just astonishing. Also opposite was true, my friend just could not catch me. So it posses question: is it due to ski itself, skills or what? There can be a variety of reasons. Properly waxed skis certainly will be faster when gliding than ones which aren't. But your skills make at least as much difference, almost certainly more unless you are *just* gliding. And your weight makes some difference too, heavier tends to mean faster at recreational level. -- Alex Heney, Global Villager The facts, although interesting, are irrelevant. To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom |
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alf wrote:
Hi, had a chance to take my new Fisher RX8 to Snowmass/Loveland Co last week for 4 days. It is pure pleasure and everything what I read was indeed true, at least to the my level I can verify it at. One observation though - I was carving behind my friend and some other guys following their tracks as precisely as possible. The easiness I could catch them up and the speed it happened was just astonishing. Also opposite was true, my friend just could not catch me. So it posses question: is it due to ski itself, skills or what? New skis with fresh bases and a good factory supplied wax will have less friction and be faster than old bases. So, yeah, you may be faster. Which may or may not be a good thing. //Walt |
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Walt wrote:
Or your path is more in the fall line? I followed his track quite precisely. It is also pronounced when I made deeper turns i.e. distance I skied was significantly longer at greater speed while the descent pace was the same. |
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alf wrote:
Walt wrote: New skis with fresh bases and a good factory supplied wax will have less friction and be faster than old bases. So, yeah, you may be faster. Which may or may not be a good thing. it was significantly faster. I remember year ago the difference between waxed and not-waxed skis and it did not feel so radical. plus we were carving - so I would think that speed on edges is less dependent on the wax. Maybe you and the RX 8 are making a cleaner carve than your buddy? Or your path is more in the fall line? any number of possibilities present themselves. I ski regularly with somebody who's a better skier than me. I'm often faster, but that's because he's better at control in the fall line than I am. If we raced, he'd probably beat me, but freeskiing he's making more/shorter turns than me and I pass him a lot. but hey, why it might not be good thing? Sometimes you want to go fast, sometimes you want to slow down. |
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"alf" ask@me wrote in message ... Walt wrote: New skis with fresh bases and a good factory supplied wax will have less friction and be faster than old bases. So, yeah, you may be faster. Which may or may not be a good thing. it was significantly faster. I remember year ago the difference between waxed and not-waxed skis and it did not feel so radical. plus we were carving - so I would think that speed on edges is less dependent on the wax. Unless you are carving on glare ice, there is more base on the snow than edge. could it be possible the the faster ski bends in the turn the way the my mass is more equally distributed over the edge and thus the overall friction is smaller. but hey, why it might not be good thing? A ski that slides easier turns easier - not a problem. Bob |
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Bob F wrote:
Unless you are carving on glare ice, there is more base on the snow than edge. It's not ice until it's clear enough to see a fish through it. //Walt |
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alf wrote:
Walt wrote: New skis with fresh bases and a good factory supplied wax will have less friction and be faster than old bases. So, yeah, you may be faster. Which may or may not be a good thing. it was significantly faster. I remember year ago the difference between waxed and not-waxed skis and it did not feel so radical. plus we were carving - so I would think that speed on edges is less dependent on the wax. A poorly scraped and brushed ski will be slower than a ski with no wax remaining after a large number of runs. Try to ski on a un scraped pair of ski's. Its like you left the parking brake on. could it be possible the the faster ski bends in the turn the way the my mass is more equally distributed over the edge and thus the overall friction is smaller. If you kickup a lot of snow in a turn your scrubbing speed. The object with the largest mass will tend to go faster which is one reason downhill racers are not small people. I followed an 70 year old downhiller who skied with his ski's flat kicked up no snow when he carved turns and he flew. The only way I could match his speed was to drop into a tuck on the fall line while he carved away. but hey, why it might not be good thing? A. |
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down_hill wrote:
The object with the largest mass will tend to go faster Galileo Galilee objects. |
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