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Who get's the most snow/most snowfall in Europe?
Has anyone seen any stats that can tell you how often a resort gets fresh
snow? I read in the Daily Mail ski mag that if you want fresh snow, then statistically the US (Utah/Colorado) is the place to go. They reckon Europe runs the season on 3 big dumps a year, whilst the US resorts almost get weekly or fortnightly fresh snow. As someone who is always after freshies (and struck lucky this year in Val after 5 barren years) this kind of info is key to where to ski! cheers, greg |
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Who get's the most snow/most snowfall in Europe?
Greg Hilton wrote:
Has anyone seen any stats that can tell you how often a resort gets fresh snow? I read in the Daily Mail ski mag that if you want fresh snow, then statistically the US (Utah/Colorado) is the place to go. They reckon Europe runs the season on 3 big dumps a year, whilst the US resorts almost get weekly or fortnightly fresh snow. As someone who is always after freshies (and struck lucky this year in Val after 5 barren years) this kind of info is key to where to ski! cheers, greg Completely unscientific and probably very biaised view, but I am sure St Anton gets more fresh snow days than Cham or Val. It's completely academic anyway because it gets tracked out instantly in any of these resorts. |
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Who get's the most snow/most snowfall in Europe?
Steve Haigh wrote in news:3fd8d15f$0$7960
: It's completely academic anyway because it gets tracked out instantly in any of these resorts. that's the 2nd half of the formulae needed for weekend trips to powder! |
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Who get's the most snow/most snowfall in Europe?
Greg Hilton wrote Has anyone seen any stats that can tell you how often a resort gets fresh snow? I read in the Daily Mail ski mag that if you want fresh snow, then statistically the US (Utah/Colorado) is the place to go. They reckon Europe runs the season on 3 big dumps a year, whilst the US resorts almost get weekly or fortnightly fresh snow. As someone who is always after freshies (and struck lucky this year in Val after 5 barren years) this kind of info is key to where to ski! I'm fairly sure that the West Coast of Canada (i.e. Whistler) gets fresh show more often than Utah and Colorado. It is also far more prone to torrential rain at the base (even in high season) and zero visibility. Nick |
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Who get's the most snow/most snowfall in Europe?
Greg Hilton wrote:
Has anyone seen any stats that can tell you how often a resort gets fresh snow? I read in the Daily Mail ski mag that if you want fresh snow, then statistically the US (Utah/Colorado) is the place to go. They reckon Europe runs the season on 3 big dumps a year, whilst the US resorts almost get weekly or fortnightly fresh snow. As someone who is always after freshies (and struck lucky this year in Val after 5 barren years) this kind of info is key to where to ski! I went to Val gardena in Feb and it hadnt snowed for 5 weeks. |
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Who get's the most snow/most snowfall in Europe?
InMyTree wrote:
I'm fairly sure that the West Coast of Canada (i.e. Whistler) gets fresh show more often than Utah and Colorado. It is also far more prone to torrential rain at the base (even in high season) and zero visibility. Nick Whistler doesn't get, on average, as much as Utah.. and the quality is certainly not as good, and Whistler is often overcast, whereas a lot of Utah/Colorado ski resorts report more than 300 days a year of sunshine.. Alta, Utah gets 517 inches a year (on average), where as Whistler gets 406.. still, both get a lot! I don't doubt your figures for totals, but I have found you get a lot of days with fresh snow at Whistler (never skied Utah so can't compare really). As you say, there are a lot of sunny days in the southern Rockies and a lot of overcast days at Whistler, so it is possible that you would have more actual powder days at Whistler, and fewer but deeper days in Utah etc. Whistler certainly does get a lot of heavy sludge as well which is a pretty long way from champagne powder. It's all skiing and it's all good, but many times I have wished Whistler could be a little bit colder. As for rain at the base of Whistler, that's not the big problem. How about rain all the way to the top of Blackcomb glacier, in February. It is a fantastic ski area and gets plenty of precipitation, sadly not always snow though. |
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Who get's the most snow/most snowfall in Europe?
In message , pk
writes I went to Val gardena in Feb and it hadnt snowed for 5 weeks. I went to the 3Vs in March and it hadn't snowed for weeks. That was booked months ahead, which makes you a hostage to the weather. I went to the PdS in January at a week's notice, it snowed for two days and I could ski below cloud level so not in a whiteout. Moral: book at short notice and follow the snow. -- Sue ];( |
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Who get's the most snow/most snowfall in Europe?
"InMyTree" wrote I'm fairly sure that the West Coast of Canada (i.e. Whistler) gets fresh show more often than Utah and Colorado. It is also far more prone to torrential rain at the base (even in high season) and zero visibility. Nick Whistler doesn't get, on average, as much as Utah.. and the quality is certainly not as good, and Whistler is often overcast, whereas a lot of Utah/Colorado ski resorts report more than 300 days a year of sunshine.. Alta, Utah gets 517 inches a year (on average), where as Whistler gets 406.. still, both get a lot! I wrote 'gets fresh snow more often' not gets more snow in total. (In any case the difference between 406 and 517 inches would be less than the difference in moving the measurement point more than a few yards.) Bet the actual amount of moisture falling at Whistler is far more than at Alta. I've had excellent powder at Whistler but it wasn't exactly 3% champagne :-( Nick |
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Steve Haigh wrote in
: Completely unscientific and probably very biaised view, but I am sure St Anton gets more fresh snow days than Cham or Val. It's completely academic anyway because it gets tracked out instantly in any of these resorts. In January we still could find good powed skiing four days after the 50cm snowfall in S:t Anton. There are quite a lot more piste-only skiers there than in Chamonix (of course) and many other French resorts. /Tommy |
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Who get's the most snow/most snowfall in Europe?
I have studied this a bit over the past couple years. From what I have
found the best stats on snow in the alps are the skiclub's historical stats. now this is base depth of snow, not snow fall which means its tough to compare and they are definitely not as accurate as the link previously posted for NA which has incredible stats. From looking at that I would suggest St. Anton is probably the best place in the alps if you had to bet. Its a bit frustrating that there isn't more info on European snow fall. I would also disagree with what a previous poster said about it being all skied out in a day. Last year I was making first tracks around the Arlberg 5 days after a storm. That is something that is mystical for us "yanks" Having lived in Tahoe, Jackson Hole, and skied Alta a lot I can tell you that things go a lot quicker on this side of the pond. For example last week at Whistler there was 35cm fresh and people started lining up for the Peak Chair at 8:30am and it didn't open until noon. The front side was done in less than an hour. Being from the US the debate on Whistler vs Utah is interesting. You should also include Grand Targhee and Mt. Baker in the equation as well. Alta does get far more snow and does a great job of managing the area to preserve the pow experience. I think if you look at the US site previously suggested you will see that actually Grand Targhee is probably the best bet for light, consistent snow and it doesn't get skied out tooo fast either. Just over the pass from Jackson. |
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