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bdubya wrote:
The mystery remains....that little hill just kicks my butt like nowhere else I've been. Heh. When I was up there in the summer a couple of years ago Troy (the proprietor at Lac La Belle Lodge) asked me if I was planning on coming up in the winter to ski. To which I blithly replied "I dunno. It's an awfully long way to drive just to get my ass kicked." Little did I know... //Walt |
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On 2006-02-22, bdubya penned:
As for conditioning, while I certainly don't claim to be in JHAF studbomb condition, I am definitely in my best shape since I was a teenager. Seems like if it's conditioning, it should affect me more on a Real Mountain, right? But it doesn't. Thanks for the tip on the ibu, but I just don't take it that often; we're talking like 800mg total over the 3-day weekend, and it's rare for me to take it at all (like not for several weeks at a stretch). The ibuprofin thing worries me. For the last few years, I've preloaded on NSAIDs (actually aleve, not ibuprofin, usually) before heading up the mountain. Mostly it's my bad knees; this season it's a bad wrist. Perhaps I'll try not taking it this weekend. I just hope my wrist can handle it. Then again, if it hurts too much without the pain killers, I probably shouldn't be doing it with them, either. I'm just so flippin' sick of sitting out on my favorite activities because of injury. -- monique Longmont, CO |
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On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 17:47:26 -0500, "Monique Y. Mudama"
wrote: On 2006-02-22, bdubya penned: As for conditioning, while I certainly don't claim to be in JHAF studbomb condition, I am definitely in my best shape since I was a teenager. Seems like if it's conditioning, it should affect me more on a Real Mountain, right? But it doesn't. Thanks for the tip on the ibu, but I just don't take it that often; we're talking like 800mg total over the 3-day weekend, and it's rare for me to take it at all (like not for several weeks at a stretch). The ibuprofin thing worries me. For the last few years, I've preloaded on NSAIDs (actually aleve, not ibuprofin, usually) before heading up the mountain. Mostly it's my bad knees; this season it's a bad wrist. Perhaps I'll try not taking it this weekend. I just hope my wrist can handle it. Then again, if it hurts too much without the pain killers, I probably shouldn't be doing it with them, either. I'm just so flippin' sick of sitting out on my favorite activities because of injury. Ever try Tiger Balm? I was always skeptical, but it actually seems to work. Especially the red stuff. JD's right, conditioning is key (I've beefed up my quads and hams lately, and my knees seem happier for it), but the Tiger Balm brought me more relief this weekend than the ibuprofen. bw |
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On 2006-02-22, bdubya penned:
Ever try Tiger Balm? I was always skeptical, but it actually seems to work. Especially the red stuff. JD's right, conditioning is key (I've beefed up my quads and hams lately, and my knees seem happier for it), but the Tiger Balm brought me more relief this weekend than the ibuprofen. Actually, no ... I have an arnica and other stuff cream that acts a lot like icy hot ... but not Tiger Balm. I assume it's specifically for soreness, not injury? Does it feel hot to the touch right away? I am not sure if any sort of balm would help my wrist problem. Mostly I don't know because no one seems to have any idea what's wrong with it. Some deep tissue / trigger point massage has increased my range of motion, but it's still not healed. -- monique Longmont, CO |
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On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 17:43:49 -0500, Walt
wrote: bdubya wrote: The mystery remains....that little hill just kicks my butt like nowhere else I've been. Heh. When I was up there in the summer a couple of years ago Troy (the proprietor at Lac La Belle Lodge) asked me if I was planning on coming up in the winter to ski. To which I blithly replied "I dunno. It's an awfully long way to drive just to get my ass kicked." Little did I know... You're right, but still somehow I keep coming back for more.... bw |
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Jeff Davis wrote:
Ibuprophen interferes with the body's natural repair process. Medical study reference, please? |
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Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
On 2006-02-22, bdubya penned: Ever try Tiger Balm? I was always skeptical, but it actually seems to work. Especially the red stuff. JD's right, conditioning is key (I've beefed up my quads and hams lately, and my knees seem happier for it), but the Tiger Balm brought me more relief this weekend than the ibuprofen. Actually, no ... I have an arnica and other stuff cream that acts a lot like icy hot ... but not Tiger Balm. I assume it's specifically for soreness, not injury? Does it feel hot to the touch right away? Pretty much. Most folks find it pretty intense. I am not sure if any sort of balm would help my wrist problem. Mostly I don't know because no one seems to have any idea what's wrong with it. Some deep tissue / trigger point massage has increased my range of motion, but it's still not healed. I think stuff like Tiger Balm or Ben Gay primarily works because it's an irritant, and as such, stimulates circulation to the injured area. That's a nontrivial healing mechanism, FWIW. I got hit on the hill last Wednesday, took Thursday off, and have been working and healing since Friday primarily on Tiger Balm. |
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On 2006-02-23, Mary Malmros penned:
I think stuff like Tiger Balm or Ben Gay primarily works because it's an irritant, and as such, stimulates circulation to the injured area. Hrm, interesting point, especially when doctors talk about certain areas having trouble healing because of the relative lack of blood flow. -- monique Longmont, CO |
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On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 22:57:32 -0500, "Monique Y. Mudama"
wrote: On 2006-02-22, bdubya penned: No, it takes a few minutes. And if you rub your eyes after applying it, may God have mercy on you.... Good point. I'll be careful (once I figure out where to buy it around here). Check your local pharmacy for a start. Or if you have a good crunchy holistic healing boutique in the neighborhood, they'd be worth a check as well. The white stuff is pretty much like concentrated Vicks VapoRub, the red stuff is hotter and (IMHO) has less of an odor. I recommend the red. bw |
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bdubya wrote: Ever try Tiger Balm? I was always skeptical, but it actually seems to work. Especially the red stuff. JD's right, conditioning is key (I've beefed up my quads and hams lately, and my knees seem happier for it), but the Tiger Balm brought me more relief this weekend than the ibuprofen. Ratty Kanzler turned me on to Glucosamine Chondroitin. I jacked my rebuilt knee bouldering in the gym while I was in training for Denali. The JH Ski Patrol swears by Glucosamine Chondroitin. In a week I was back running up hill ad nausium. Glucosamine Chondroitin is expensive. And it seems to be hard on the stomach without food. What it does for joints is cumulative and extremely effective. No analgesia. Just dietary supplimentation that makes joints preform much better. -- According to John Perry Barlow, "Jeff Davis is a truly gifted trouble-maker." |
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