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"Set it and forget it" wax for skating?
Hi,
I just ordered a pair of Rossi Zynex for basic skating practice. I told the shop that ideally I wouldn't want to spend any time in the wax room and treat them as waxless skis. The shop said they'd apply 2 coats of hot wax to protect the surface. They also mentioned that I should apply some kind of "white wax" before skiing for the first time. They said they either don't carry that stuff or were out of it. So, what do you think they had in mind? Any other ideas? Thanks! |
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"Set it and forget it" wax for skating?
Maybe they were referring to a paste or liquid wax. Swix F4, Toko's
high flouro Dibloc and the versions of Fast Wax paste come to mind. I prefer the latter two for glide zones. Rub on, let sit 5-10 minutes and then buff or polish. The downside is that you'll normally only get 5K max out of those, depending on snow coarseness. Unless you asked, the shop probably put on a straight paraffin wax, no flouro. It's ok but slow, meaning you have to work harder (and drive up your heart rate more). You might want to have at least a low flouro on top. Depending on how much you ski, you also might want to rewax once or twice during the season. Skating is more aerobically intense than striding, so it helps to get every advantage you can. Gene On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 18:48:59 -0800 (PST) Larry wrote: Hi, I just ordered a pair of Rossi Zynex for basic skating practice. I told the shop that ideally I wouldn't want to spend any time in the wax room and treat them as waxless skis. The shop said they'd apply 2 coats of hot wax to protect the surface. They also mentioned that I should apply some kind of "white wax" before skiing for the first time. They said they either don't carry that stuff or were out of it. So, what do you think they had in mind? Any other ideas? Thanks! |
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"Set it and forget it" wax for skating?
Hi Larry,
I understand your desire to keep it simple. But I want to argue that just a bit of waxing is the most simple. I assume you are skiing (not walking or snowshoeing) because you like glide. You get your best glide from a well waxed ski. Skiing on a slow ski is an exercise in frustration. Putting in a cold carbon wax will work for most conditions through the heart of winter. I disagree with Gene: flouro waxes are more expensive and are only better in wet snow conditions. Flouros are actually slower than carbon waxes in cold dry conditions. So I recommend you put in a cold wax such as Fast Wax Blue http://www.gearwest.com/fast-wax-hs-...r-8903393.html then perhaps wipe on some paste wax every so often to keep your bases with some wax in them http://www.gearwest.com/easy-applica...es-c-2405.html Now if you want to get even more glide and want to spend some more time to achieve it, think about hot waxing your skis more often, say every 100km or so, and perhaps buying two more glide waxes for differing temperatures. The Fast Wax Green is great in butt cold conditions, and the Fast Wax Red in mild conditions. Again flouro waxes are noticably faster in wetter snow (when RH is greater than 50% such as in falling snow near 0C or in fog etc etc) but they are expensive and require some caution when applying and can be slower in dry cold snow. |
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"Set it and forget it" wax for skating?
I think we're suggesting the same approach to hot waxing - a few times
a season. The paste/liquid flouros I suggested are on the low end of cost, in about the $10-25 range, and for most of us they last for many seasons, if not a lifetime. The OP didn't say where he is skiing, however it is an "old skier's tale" now turned myth that fluoros work only in wet snow conditions. Just ask World Cup wax techs. Agreed that in the U.S., wax company reps push expensive high flouros in colder conditions when a low flouro, or even non flouro, is just as good or better. But it's well established now that flouros can be used with benefit in colder conditions. Even Fast Wax says so: see their Paste line at http://www.skifastwax.com/, and a skier's Birkie tale with the colder paste waxes under Newsletter). Gene On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 07:17:05 -0800 (PST) Gunde wrote: Hi Larry, I understand your desire to keep it simple. But I want to argue that just a bit of waxing is the most simple. I assume you are skiing (not walking or snowshoeing) because you like glide. You get your best glide from a well waxed ski. Skiing on a slow ski is an exercise in frustration. Putting in a cold carbon wax will work for most conditions through the heart of winter. I disagree with Gene: flouro waxes are more expensive and are only better in wet snow conditions. Flouros are actually slower than carbon waxes in cold dry conditions. So I recommend you put in a cold wax such as Fast Wax Blue http://www.gearwest.com/fast-wax-hs-...r-8903393.html then perhaps wipe on some paste wax every so often to keep your bases with some wax in them http://www.gearwest.com/easy-applica...es-c-2405.html Now if you want to get even more glide and want to spend some more time to achieve it, think about hot waxing your skis more often, say every 100km or so, and perhaps buying two more glide waxes for differing temperatures. The Fast Wax Green is great in butt cold conditions, and the Fast Wax Red in mild conditions. Again flouro waxes are noticably faster in wetter snow (when RH is greater than 50% such as in falling snow near 0C or in fog etc etc) but they are expensive and require some caution when applying and can be slower in dry cold snow. |
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