Helmets!

Snowed out 88 east bound today.. Should be good tomorrow with 4 more
feet of fresh.

Champ wrote:
On 11 Jan 2005 04:24:02 -0800, wrote:

do you launch air off cat
tracks, cliffs and elsewhere?

I must have missed those cliff launches Champ. Where was that..?

hah! Look, I followed you over one of the ickle drops at Kirkwood.
And you should have seen the chute-with-a-big-rock-in-the-middle that
Iain led us down and we had to jump off on the way from the top of
chair 4 opposite Eagle Bowl (forget the name of the ridge, but the
route is listed as something like "One man chute" on the trail map).

But, yeah, you got me :-)
--
Champ

On 11 Jan 2005 11:43:21 -0800, wrote:

Champ wrote:
On 11 Jan 2005 04:24:02 -0800, wrote:

do you launch air off cat
tracks, cliffs and elsewhere?

I must have missed those cliff launches Champ. Where was that..?

hah! Look, I followed you over one of the ickle drops at Kirkwood.
And you should have seen the chute-with-a-big-rock-in-the-middle that
Iain led us down and we had to jump off on the way from the top of
chair 4 opposite Eagle Bowl (forget the name of the ridge, but the
route is listed as something like "One man chute" on the trail map).

But, yeah, you got me :-)

Snowed out 88 east bound today.. Should be good tomorrow with 4 more
feet of fresh.

I'm both happy (for you) and sad (for me).

Oh, and post at the bottom, newbie :-)
--
Champ

Champ wrote in
:

On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:09:25 -0600, D wrote:

Champ wrote:
That's cos yanks are weenies :-)

Funny, I've only been in two wrecks and one was at
Kirkwood, first run of the day by a skier taking
a shortcut on my blind side. I was glad I had the
helmet even if they make you look like a dork.

Do you ride moguls? I suppose its a bit differnt
out west, and I have noticed that far fewer wear
them, but here in the East(ice) coast, cement has
more give than some of the bumps. Took a header
on a 2x black a few years back, again glad for
the helmet.


Anyways.. maybe somebody can comment on this..
am missing an ear flap and was checking in on
one of the local shops today. I'm fairly sure
the guy was just trying to sell me on a new helmet,
but he was claiming that all (bike, ski, etc) need
to be replaced every 3 yrs as the foam core loses
its shock absorbtion ability. Sounds bogus to me
as the helmet is pretty well a sealed thing but
I've no real clue.

Anyways.. maybe somebody can comment on this..
am missing an ear flap and was checking in on
one of the local shops today. I'm fairly sure
the guy was just trying to sell me on a new helmet,
but he was claiming that all (bike, ski, etc) need
to be replaced every 3 yrs as the foam core loses
its shock absorbtion ability. Sounds bogus to me
as the helmet is pretty well a sealed thing but
I've no real clue.



i am not sure of documented 3yr replacement, but i do know that UV light
does do major damage to foam- the main component of helmets. it follows
that a helmet will not last forever. 3yr, 5yr, 10?

--


jmed

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 05:42:21 -0000, "Mike M. Miskulin"
wrote:

Anyways.. maybe somebody can comment on this..
am missing an ear flap and was checking in on
one of the local shops today. I'm fairly sure
the guy was just trying to sell me on a new helmet,
but he was claiming that all (bike, ski, etc) need
to be replaced every 3 yrs as the foam core loses
its shock absorbtion ability. Sounds bogus to me
as the helmet is pretty well a sealed thing but
I've no real clue.

It's an often-quoted (by the manufacturers) guideline for motorcycle
helmets, although I think they say five years, not three. The rational
given is that as well as the foam core compressing (which definitely
does happen, leading to a looser fit) exposure to UV can affect the
composition of the shell over time as well.

Additionally (with m/c helmets) one is advised to junk them after
anything like a serious knock, as again the foam may have deformed, as
it's designed to, around the impact site, which will not be visible to
the naked eye, in addition ot potential damage to the shell itself.

--
Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom)
Ski Club of Great Britain - http://www.skiclub.co.uk
All opinions expressed are personal and in no way represent those of the Ski Club.

Ace wrote in
:

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 05:42:21 -0000, "Mike M. Miskulin"
wrote:

Additionally (with m/c helmets) one is advised to junk them after
anything like a serious knock, as again the foam may have deformed,
as
it's designed to, around the impact site, which will not be visible
to
the naked eye, in addition ot potential damage to the shell itself.


Interesting.. well I know of at least 2 or 3 places that probably
have a good ding in them then!

Perhaps I'll take a spin thru the store and see whats around and
how many $. Then again, I can probably wait till next year as I'm
in Vermont