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tele boot cramponts
Anyone know of crampons made for tele boots? I have a few pair that
will go on the boot but the front points are near useless since they are almost obscured by the tele toe. Thanks, Kevin |
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Hi
Anyone know of crampons made for tele boots? I have a few pair that will go on the boot but the front points are near useless since they are almost obscured by the tele toe. Thanks, Kevin I use Grivel G12 Crampo-O-Matic on my Crispi CXP http://www.tetonmtn.com/images/g12%20com.jpg for usual firn and ice aproaches is ok. I am not an ice climber, so I cannot judge, whether it is ok for ice climbing. I had before a crampon which was fixed by straps only. There show could slip more to the front than with the Cramp-O-Matic binding. Florian |
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Kevin Brooker wrote:
Anyone know of crampons made for tele boots? Made /specifically/ for, no, but the Grivel G10 Wide has been designed with both tele and snowboard boots in mind and does work pretty well, with the extra width meaning that the duckbill doesn't eat the front points. They are available with those nice modern binding straps that mean you can put them on without your fingers turning blue, which is the main reason I upgraded from my old Salewa Everests. Those did fine but I had to reassemble them for each different set of boots I had (winter walking leathers, tele and plastic climbing), which was (a) a PITA and (b) caused me various degrees of worry with stripping threads over time. The G10 has only 10 points so is hardly the Last Word in cramponing up serious climbing grade ice, but I don't have any qualms using mine on the sort of thing I'd be going up in tele boots. http://www.grivel.com/ has more. I've been happy with mine, and with the caveat that I haven't tried much else aside from my old Everests am happy to recommend them. Pete. -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/ |
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Uuups
Florian Anwander wrote: There show could slip Should be "The shoe could slip..." which is a germanism and should be better "the boot could ..." Sorry. |
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Kevin Brooker wrote:
Anyone know of crampons made for tele boots? I have a few pair that will go on the boot but the front points are near useless since they are almost obscured by the tele toe. Thanks, Kevin I use Black Diamond Sabretooths on my T2s and have been very happy with them. -klaus |
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A feew friends of mine and I have planned a trip/adventure which will
require some Grade 3 ice climbing. I was hoping to avoid boot hassles. Having a crampon come off of lose the front points might suck. I have several pair (BD, Grivel, Moser, Ediweis, Camp) for my mountaineering boots and all work to a degree. I have ice climbed with them and all brands are okay w/ smoother ice and they all suck on featured (candled, cauliflower or real soft) ice. The duck bill fills the gap on the front points. Mono points only penetrate about 1/4" (6mm) and in soft ice this can be a bit gripping. Thanks for the advice. Kevin Thu, 8 Dec 2005 17:04:09 +0000 (UTC), klaus wrote: Kevin Brooker wrote: Anyone know of crampons made for tele boots? I have a few pair that will go on the boot but the front points are near useless since they are almost obscured by the tele toe. Thanks, Kevin I use Black Diamond Sabretooths on my T2s and have been very happy with them. -klaus |
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In article , Kevin Brooker wrote: A feew friends of mine and I have planned a trip/adventure which will require some Grade 3 ice climbing. I was hoping to avoid boot hassles. Having a crampon come off of lose the front points might suck. I have several pair (BD, Grivel, Moser, Ediweis, Camp) for my mountaineering boots and all work to a degree. I have ice climbed with them and all brands are okay w/ smoother ice and they all suck on featured (candled, cauliflower or real soft) ice. The duck bill fills the gap on the front points. Mono points only penetrate about 1/4" (6mm) and in soft ice this can be a bit gripping. Thanks for the advice. Kevin _ I think you're kind of SOL with this. Every crampon on a tele boot suffers this problem in some degree. Depending on what kind of telemark binding you have you might look into grinding the toe piece off 4-5 mm. On most cable style bindings you don't need the full duckbill. _ Booker C. Bense -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBQ5iex2TWTAjn5N/lAQEPbAQAprdrNORlP7mIRe7vo8K53ezFnUCkFitF CB/w3HhggNKtumVZ9q5Eg+l4kJfxvv+iTQWR+/A87gvDpCioVgCYvz1UXfq9DUEX dzJSpdTVshLp976pfMo7/aNVj7QhCzP8Sut71uacX+ZTce2LWwPdl2uffN6EHQFc jy4rjm1CeVk= =tptX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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Booker C. Bense bbense+rec.skiing.backcountry.Dec.08.05@telemark. slac.stanford.edu wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In article , Kevin Brooker wrote: A feew friends of mine and I have planned a trip/adventure which will require some Grade 3 ice climbing. I was hoping to avoid boot hassles. Having a crampon come off of lose the front points might suck. I have several pair (BD, Grivel, Moser, Ediweis, Camp) for my mountaineering boots and all work to a degree. I have ice climbed with them and all brands are okay w/ smoother ice and they all suck on featured (candled, cauliflower or real soft) ice. The duck bill fills the gap on the front points. Mono points only penetrate about 1/4" (6mm) and in soft ice this can be a bit gripping. Thanks for the advice. Kevin _ I think you're kind of SOL with this. Every crampon on a tele boot suffers this problem in some degree. Depending on what kind of telemark binding you have you might look into grinding the toe piece off 4-5 mm. On most cable style bindings you don't need the full duckbill. If I were doing serious ice climbing, I'd use mountaineering boots. You can get away with tele gear for most ski mountaineering, but as Booker says, the duckbill is an issue on serious ice. The Sabretooths got me up and down Denali, but I wouldn't use them on blue ice. -klaus |
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I'm trying to avoid bringing 2 sets of boots. Most of this trip I've
seen in sections. Time to grab the welder, steel, and a bit of imagination. On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 05:33:35 +0000 (UTC), klaus wrote: Booker C. Bense bbense+rec.skiing.backcountry.Dec.08.05@telemark. slac.stanford.edu wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In article , Kevin Brooker wrote: A feew friends of mine and I have planned a trip/adventure which will require some Grade 3 ice climbing. I was hoping to avoid boot hassles. Having a crampon come off of lose the front points might suck. I have several pair (BD, Grivel, Moser, Ediweis, Camp) for my mountaineering boots and all work to a degree. I have ice climbed with them and all brands are okay w/ smoother ice and they all suck on featured (candled, cauliflower or real soft) ice. The duck bill fills the gap on the front points. Mono points only penetrate about 1/4" (6mm) and in soft ice this can be a bit gripping. Thanks for the advice. Kevin _ I think you're kind of SOL with this. Every crampon on a tele boot suffers this problem in some degree. Depending on what kind of telemark binding you have you might look into grinding the toe piece off 4-5 mm. On most cable style bindings you don't need the full duckbill. If I were doing serious ice climbing, I'd use mountaineering boots. You can get away with tele gear for most ski mountaineering, but as Booker says, the duckbill is an issue on serious ice. The Sabretooths got me up and down Denali, but I wouldn't use them on blue ice. -klaus |
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Hi Booker
_ I think you're kind of SOL with this. Every crampon on a tele boot suffers this problem in some degree. Depending on what kind of telemark binding you have you might look into grinding the toe piece off 4-5 mm. On most cable style bindings you don't need the full duckbill. I think, the real problem is the toe piece of the crampons binding. Every crampon with cage style or ribbon style toe pieces will suffer that, but a binding with a wire (comparable to the silvretta 400 ski binding) will keep the boot in a better position on the crampon. Florian |
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