Intrawest and Vail pass increases

Here's the Vail info: http://tinyurl.com/3dqmb9


Intrawest also offers a new product this year, the Rocky Mountain
Super Pass Plus. Unlimited Winter Park and Copper plus six
unrestricted days at Steamboat for $479. They also introduced an
unlimited pass for all three at $999.

My take is that these are still pretty bargain rates but unless they
see skier visits decline markedly we will keep getting a steady diet
of yearly increases until the bargain is barely there.

I was really hoping to see a WP tic with a few SB days for less than
$400.

I'm sure Intrawest and Vailco were just itching to end their price
war. Anybody think this increase was a cooperative effort?

Chris

I dunno I always think it's kind of funny when locals bitch that they
have to pay the same amount to ski for a whole season as tourists pay
to ski about a week.

The Colorado pass is $419. What's that now, 4 days at tourist rates
skiing Vail? No one likes price increases, but $419 to ski for a whole
winter ANYWHERE is a great deal. I paid about $900 for a Chamonix
season pass, and roughly the same in Whistler the following year. The
way I looked at it, my first day cost $900, and after that I skied all
I wanted for free.

Compare it to dinner and a movie. It'd be hard to take your girlfriend
to dinner and a movie for under $50. That gives you 3-4 hours of
entertainment total (if the dinner is entertaining.) You can do that 8
times for the same price as you could ski an entire season on the
Colorado pass.

Not trying to be argumentative, Bumpfreaq. Just my 2 cents on the
matter.

Chris



On Apr 5, 12:24 pm, "bumpfreaq" wrote:
Here's the Vail info: http://tinyurl.com/3dqmb9

Intrawest also offers a new product this year, the Rocky Mountain
Super Pass Plus. Unlimited Winter Park and Copper plus six
unrestricted days at Steamboat for $479. They also introduced an
unlimited pass for all three at $999.

My take is that these are still pretty bargain rates but unless they
see skier visits decline markedly we will keep getting a steady diet
of yearly increases until the bargain is barely there.

I was really hoping to see a WP tic with a few SB days for less than
$400.

I'm sure Intrawest and Vailco were just itching to end their price
war. Anybody think this increase was a cooperative effort?

Chris

On Apr 5, 11:44 am, "Chris in Hopkins, MN"
wrote:
I dunno I always think it's kind of funny when locals bitch that they
have to pay the same amount to ski for a whole season as tourists pay
to ski about a week.

The Colorado pass is $419. What's that now, 4 days at tourist rates
skiing Vail? No one likes price increases, but $419 to ski for a whole
winter ANYWHERE is a great deal. I paid about $900 for a Chamonix
season pass, and roughly the same in Whistler the following year. The
way I looked at it, my first day cost $900, and after that I skied all
I wanted for free.

Compare it to dinner and a movie. It'd be hard to take your girlfriend
to dinner and a movie for under $50. That gives you 3-4 hours of
entertainment total (if the dinner is entertaining.) You can do that 8
times for the same price as you could ski an entire season on the
Colorado pass.

Not trying to be argumentative, Bumpfreaq. Just my 2 cents on the
matter.

Chris

I do think it's a good deal but for the last five or more years it's
been a great deal and with this rather large increase it seems to me
like it might be back in line with the norm before long. Perhaps the
more interesting aspect is that both companies made the big increase
at the same time.

Chris

On Apr 5, 12:24 pm, "bumpfreaq" wrote:

Here's the Vail info: http://tinyurl.com/3dqmb9

Intrawest also offers a new product this year, the Rocky Mountain
Super Pass Plus. Unlimited Winter Park and Copper plus six
unrestricted days at Steamboat for $479. They also introduced an
unlimited pass for all three at $999.

My take is that these are still pretty bargain rates but unless they
see skier visits decline markedly we will keep getting a steady diet
of yearly increases until the bargain is barely there.

I was really hoping to see a WP tic with a few SB days for less than
$400.

I'm sure Intrawest and Vailco were just itching to end their price
war. Anybody think this increase was a cooperative effort?

Chris

bumpfreaq wrote:

I do think it's a good deal but for the last five or more years it's
been a great deal and with this rather large increase it seems to me
like it might be back in line with the norm before long. Perhaps the
more interesting aspect is that both companies made the big increase
at the same time.

There's an aggressive price war going on. Vail, Deer Valley, Aspen,
Killington, et. al. are all vying to be the most expensive place to ski.
After all, if you're the most expensive, you must be the best, right?

So, expect the others to match when one raises prices. I'm not sure
where it ends, but the $100 window price is no more than five years away.


//Walt

I'm sure it's sort of like when one gas station or an airline raises
their pricing, the others see it and go "Thank god, we can raise ours
too now finally." I'm sure they didn't talk to each other and plan the
increase. Those are big sophisticated companies by now and they'd be
idiots to try to price-fix somehow. I'd say one company blinked first
and raised their price and the other followed.

Pardon me again if I seemed to be argumentative or critical of your
post. It reminded me of all the complaining I used to hear from my
cheapass resort buddies, who were looking to screw the resort any
chance they got if they could save a nickel, hehe. Resorts make money
on tourists... they tolerate locals. Although CO might be somewhat
different because there's so many resorts so close together, they
probably need more local traffic to survive.

Chris




On Apr 5, 1:23 pm, "bumpfreaq" wrote:
On Apr 5, 11:44 am, "Chris in Hopkins, MN"
wrote:



I dunno I always think it's kind of funny when locals bitch that they
have to pay the same amount to ski for a whole season as tourists pay
to ski about a week.

The Colorado pass is $419. What's that now, 4 days at tourist rates
skiing Vail? No one likes price increases, but $419 to ski for a whole
winter ANYWHERE is a great deal. I paid about $900 for a Chamonix
season pass, and roughly the same in Whistler the following year. The
way I looked at it, my first day cost $900, and after that I skied all
I wanted for free.

Compare it to dinner and a movie. It'd be hard to take your girlfriend
to dinner and a movie for under $50. That gives you 3-4 hours of
entertainment total (if the dinner is entertaining.) You can do that 8
times for the same price as you could ski an entire season on the
Colorado pass.

Not trying to be argumentative, Bumpfreaq. Just my 2 cents on the
matter.

Chris

I do think it's a good deal but for the last five or more years it's
been a great deal and with this rather large increase it seems to me
like it might be back in line with the norm before long. Perhaps the
more interesting aspect is that both companies made the big increase
at the same time.

Chris



On Apr 5, 12:24 pm, "bumpfreaq" wrote:

Here's the Vail info: http://tinyurl.com/3dqmb9

Intrawest also offers a new product this year, the Rocky Mountain
Super Pass Plus. Unlimited Winter Park and Copper plus six
unrestricted days at Steamboat for $479. They also introduced an
unlimited pass for all three at $999.

My take is that these are still pretty bargain rates but unless they
see skier visits decline markedly we will keep getting a steady diet
of yearly increases until the bargain is barely there.

I was really hoping to see a WP tic with a few SB days for less than
$400.

I'm sure Intrawest and Vailco were just itching to end their price
war. Anybody think this increase was a cooperative effort?

Chris

On Apr 5, 11:44 am, "Chris in Hopkins, MN"
wrote:
I dunno I always think it's kind of funny when locals bitch that they
have to pay the same amount to ski for a whole season as tourists pay
to ski about a week.

The Colorado pass is $419. What's that now, 4 days at tourist rates
skiing Vail? No one likes price increases, but $419 to ski for a whole
winter ANYWHERE is a great deal. I paid about $900 for a Chamonix
season pass, and roughly the same in Whistler the following year. The
way I looked at it, my first day cost $900, and after that I skied all
I wanted for free.

Compare it to dinner and a movie. It'd be hard to take your girlfriend
to dinner and a movie for under $50. That gives you 3-4 hours of
entertainment total (if the dinner is entertaining.) You can do that 8
times for the same price as you could ski an entire season on the
Colorado pass.

Not trying to be argumentative, Bumpfreaq. Just my 2 cents on the
matter.

Chris

On Apr 5, 12:24 pm, "bumpfreaq" wrote:



Here's the Vail info: http://tinyurl.com/3dqmb9

Intrawest also offers a new product this year, the Rocky Mountain
Super Pass Plus. Unlimited Winter Park and Copper plus six
unrestricted days at Steamboat for $479. They also introduced an
unlimited pass for all three at $999.

My take is that these are still pretty bargain rates but unless they
see skier visits decline markedly we will keep getting a steady diet
of yearly increases until the bargain is barely there.

I was really hoping to see a WP tic with a few SB days for less than
$400.

I'm sure Intrawest and Vailco were just itching to end their price
war. Anybody think this increase was a cooperative effort?

Chris- Hide quoted text -

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****! I paid about $2K for a ski anywhere in Utah pass all season, for
about 5 seasons. And I thought THAT was a good deal!

$2k to ski anywhere in Utah for a season IS a great deal, if you ask
me. My numbers for Cham and Whistler were from 1996-98. Nowadays I
think a Whistler pass is more like $1500.

Dunno if you read that article up top but $419 gets you a season at
Breckenridge, A-Basin, and Keystone. And 10 limited days at Vail. To
me that pass is worth about zilch, but for people who like those
resorts it's a super deal.

Now I sound like a resort-snob. I dunno, I prefer the backcountry
anyway. ;-)

Chris

Chris in Hopkins, MN wrote:
$2k to ski anywhere in Utah for a season IS a great deal, if you ask
me. My numbers for Cham and Whistler were from 1996-98. Nowadays I
think a Whistler pass is more like $1500.

Dunno if you read that article up top but $419 gets you a season at
Breckenridge, A-Basin, and Keystone. And 10 limited days at Vail. To
me that pass is worth about zilch, but for people who like those
resorts it's a super deal.

A-Basin is a nice skier's mountain; I prefer it to the other Summit Co
attractions. Therefore it won't be long before they improve it to death.

Sven Golly wrote:
lal_truckee wrote in news:OhDRh.1618$zC.141
@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net:

A-Basin is a nice skier's mountain; I prefer it to the other Summit Co
attractions. Therefore it won't be long before they improve it to
death

Retrogrouch only goes so far. A is good for one or two days skiing. Then
Breck & Copper blow it away.

LAL, Retrogrouch? bet there will be a rebuttal here.

Actually I'll be skiing tomorrow, at Killington, in
mid-winter conditions (yet again). The slow-starting
season actually hasn't been too bad. No snow 'til
Valentines day and now 21" since Wednesday, and cold
too. Well, below freezing anyway. Still need the
parka, or as we call our uniform at K, the paper-thin
shell.

On Apr 6, 8:24 pm, lal_truckee wrote:


A-Basin is a nice skier's mountain; I prefer it to the other Summit Co
attractions. Therefore it won't be long before they improve it to death.

No it's not. They allow boards there too.