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Waxing waxless skis
My fish scaled skis are now ussless. If I am to use them this year, I need
to wax them. Can i just apply the wax to them? Do I have to remove the scales? How would I do it? I dont remember how to wax, so, how do I wax? Thanks, Micheal PS, I know, here the season doesnt start for another 3 months |
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Micheal Artindale wrote:
My fish scaled skis are now ussless. If I am to use them this year, I need to wax them. Can i just apply the wax to them? Do I have to remove the scales? How would I do it? I dont remember how to wax, so, how do I wax? Thanks, Micheal PS, I know, here the season doesnt start for another 3 months Since no one has replied yet I will take a stab at it. For fishscale skis, you apply hot wax to the front and back, but not the scales. Any easier way out is to clean the base , then apply a liquid wax or paste to the whole thing (scales included) In both cases, you need to apply a paste or liquid wax to the scale areas to prevent icing and snow clumping. Hot waxing in general is; 1) Clean base with gentle solvent. 2) Let dry at least 1/2 hr. 3) Drip on wax (not to scales!) 4) Iron in wax )soaks into base) 5) Let cool 1/2 hour 6) Scrape wax off with plastic scraper. 7) Polish with brush if you want. All scraping and polishing are always in the tip to tail direction. gr |
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In article , gr wrote: Micheal Artindale wrote: My fish scaled skis are now ussless. If I am to use them this year, I need to wax them. Can i just apply the wax to them? Do I have to remove the scales? How would I do it? I dont remember how to wax, so, how do I wax? Thanks, Micheal PS, I know, here the season doesnt start for another 3 months Since no one has replied yet I will take a stab at it. For fishscale skis, you apply hot wax to the front and back, but not the scales. _ If you want the best out of the skis hot wax the whole ski and use a stiff nylon brush to get the excess wax out of the scales. It's more work, but well worth it IMHO. Scales can be structured just like you would on the rest of the ski. It will never be as fast as a waxable base, but it can be a whole lot faster than doing nothing. _ If you don't want to go that far, at least use something like F4 or zardoz NotWax on the scales. _ Booker C. Bense -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBQx3c9WTWTAjn5N/lAQHRzwQAot4mSZPYYRexSSrvQi2INjgCA6tCuq85 sYw0SsVDRVP8cD0NckuP+8XsBsPzsNVoyI4UeunzJf3czwh8aN OUF8FeqzLxYhvO UItweLUGeGuHJwVpZOVF5Ed8iEUKzwe6nkrPFlsGko8LbNgRYY 2ePwLljYwvXdxc a4mNDHw54oA= =uWNE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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Micheal, is your question being misinterpreted? Are your skis useless
because you need glide wax, or do the fish scales no longer grip, owing to wear. If it is the latter, your problem has not been addressed. I would like to hear the answer too. Leland |
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In article . com, Leland wrote: Micheal, is your question being misinterpreted? Are your skis useless because you need glide wax, or do the fish scales no longer grip, owing to wear. If it is the latter, your problem has not been addressed. I would like to hear the answer too. _ Actually, waxing generally improves the grip as well as the glide, since the scales only work if the snow slides off them easily. In my experience nobody skis enough to ever "wear out" a pair of waxless skis, they just don't do the necessary maintance to keep the skis gliding and climbing well. _ Booker C. Bense -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBQyiuJWTWTAjn5N/lAQFeGQP8Cb/Ztcw3UgbUl7my4dKBjCvuhmyAesa1 0Y887lqxXG0iBtBHczYtPd2R1YZ4lZlps9K9h+8p9MGxplAVuh 3Ounyfn8qsaX97 zSMqW8719aB1/fC//+c/Cg3HMzJUEd1qBwW0tZYg1RFDb7wIRmaDZcXxreT7dxIo bTM4qsS3+mE= =tcJ9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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"Leland" wrote in message ups.com... Micheal, is your question being misinterpreted? Are your skis useless because you need glide wax, or do the fish scales no longer grip, owing to wear. If it is the latter, your problem has not been addressed. I would like to hear the answer too. Leland The fish scales are too smooth due to wear to grip anymore. I have great glide, no grip. And the solution, besides replacing is...... Thanks, Micheal |
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Micheal Artindale wrote:
"Leland" wrote in message ups.com... Micheal, is your question being misinterpreted? Are your skis useless because you need glide wax, or do the fish scales no longer grip, owing to wear. If it is the latter, your problem has not been addressed. I would like to hear the answer too. Leland The fish scales are too smooth due to wear to grip anymore. I have great glide, no grip. And the solution, besides replacing is...... Thanks, Micheal Only thing I can think of is rather drastic; Moto-tool/mini-grinder use to cut some new grip surface at the back end of the fish scales. The tricky part is to not cut too deep, so some sort of guide/holder is needed. I had a pair like these and kind of liked them for most snow conditions (quieter and better glide) gr |
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If your ski base is so far gone that the mechanical grip pattern is
gone, it is time to treat yourself to new skis. I would imagine that skis that have been so badly beaten to wear off the pattern are probably also suffering degredation of their structural cores. Do you ski across plowed parking lots? Edgar gr wrote: Micheal Artindale wrote: "Leland" wrote in message ups.com... Micheal, is your question being misinterpreted? Are your skis useless because you need glide wax, or do the fish scales no longer grip, owing to wear. If it is the latter, your problem has not been addressed. I would like to hear the answer too. Leland The fish scales are too smooth due to wear to grip anymore. I have great glide, no grip. And the solution, besides replacing is...... Thanks, Micheal Only thing I can think of is rather drastic; Moto-tool/mini-grinder use to cut some new grip surface at the back end of the fish scales. The tricky part is to not cut too deep, so some sort of guide/holder is needed. I had a pair like these and kind of liked them for most snow conditions (quieter and better glide) gr |
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"Edgar" wrote in message oups.com... If your ski base is so far gone that the mechanical grip pattern is gone, it is time to treat yourself to new skis. I would imagine that skis that have been so badly beaten to wear off the pattern are probably also suffering degredation of their structural cores. Do you ski across plowed parking lots? The fishscales are still there, just not as good as they used to be. It is not that they have been beaten, it is that I do not ski on groomed trials. I ski on ice, unpacked trails..... Micheal PS I have skied across the odd plowed parking lot, and even the snow covered road. |
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gr wrote:
Micheal Artindale wrote: "Leland" wrote in message ups.com... Micheal, is your question being misinterpreted? Are your skis useless because you need glide wax, or do the fish scales no longer grip, owing to wear. If it is the latter, your problem has not been addressed. I would like to hear the answer too. Leland The fish scales are too smooth due to wear to grip anymore. I have great glide, no grip. And the solution, besides replacing is...... Thanks, Micheal Only thing I can think of is rather drastic; Moto-tool/mini-grinder use to cut some new grip surface at the back end of the fish scales. The tricky part is to not cut too deep, so some sort of guide/holder is needed. I had a pair like these and kind of liked them for most snow conditions (quieter and better glide) gr I'm a demon tweaker, always adjusting and re adjusting things on the bikes. I did this trick on my Dynastar race skis, but I didnt have a toolholder, just my nervous hand. Over a period of time I got the local alpineski shop to nibble away with their stone grinder at the front and rear of the fishscale section to match my increasing weight and improved gliding technique. Improving the grip of the remaining fish scales seemed an appropriate tweak, but I didnt trust the shop to do that. |
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