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warm gloves: opinions on Swany sx-15 x-over glove?
Well, finally got out to A-Basin for our first ski trip of the year. Got
there well before the lifts started, had a nice breakfast burrito with hot cocoa and a banana (yes, all in the same meal), and made our way to the lift, which was just starting. Anyway. A-Basin was its usual not-terribly-sunny self, and the ends of my fingers were painfully cold. But it really wasn't *that* cold ... probably right around freezing. Okay, maybe a bit colder. I was wearing the Kombi lobster claws I got several years ago. They have two "fingers" and a thumb, with a five-fingered liner that goes inside. My hands always get really wet in them, I guess because my hands are clammy. My dream is to one day go skiing without painfully cold fingers. I strongly flirted with the idea of mittens, but I am really nervous about not having at least some finger dexterity. I went to a local shop today and ended up with the Swany gloves mentioned in the subject. The outer layer is almost all leather of varying types, and they have the gauntlet-style wrist protection that I like (pull it over the jacket sleeve and cinch it down). There's also a pouch that can be used to hold a hand-warmer. I've never used those, so I don't know if this is important to me. Anyway, the salesguy made several claims that I'd like to have confirmed/denied/discussed: 1) He claimed that leather gloves are warmer than other materials due to being less porous than fabrics, which are woven. 2) He claimed that, from year to year, either Marmot or Swany will have the warmest glove on the market. 3) He claimed that, in extremely high-quality handwear, a mitten won't be any warmer than a glove (this is the one I really wonder about) 4) He claimed that this particular glove had been tested and found to be the warmest (objectively, via temperature) of all the gloves tested 5) He claimed that the fleece liner will wick away my sweat and keep my hands from being wet. 6) He said that his gf, who also has poor circulation and constant hands of ice, wears these and is happy with them. (I'm not asking you guys to confirm this, but do you think this is a) true or b) a tactic to get me to buy a rather pricey pair of gloves?) Finally, I'm wondering if buying gloves is the answer at all, or if I need to keep my body warmer somehow so that it doesn't say "sayonara!" to my extremities. Thing is, if I dress any warmer than I do, I'll be sweating when I ski or am standing in line, and even with wicking fabrics throughout, that causes enough wetness to make me cold again. Especially as sports bras don't do a great job of wicking, anyway. -- monique |
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Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
Finally, I'm wondering if buying gloves is the answer at all, or if I need to keep my body warmer somehow so that it doesn't say "sayonara!" to my extremities. Thing is, if I dress any warmer than I do, I'll be sweating when I ski or am standing in line, and even with wicking fabrics throughout, that causes enough wetness to make me cold again. Especially as sports bras don't do a great job of wicking, anyway. Because they're cotton. Don't wear a sports bra for skiing, for heaven's sake, it's not like you're jogging. Do both your hands and feet get cold easily? Have they ever turned whitish in conditions that are really too warm for frostbite? -- Mary Malmros Some days you're the windshield, other days you're the bug. |
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On 2004-12-07, Mary Malmros penned:
Monique Y. Mudama wrote: Finally, I'm wondering if buying gloves is the answer at all, or if I need to keep my body warmer somehow so that it doesn't say "sayonara!" to my extremities. Thing is, if I dress any warmer than I do, I'll be sweating when I ski or am standing in line, and even with wicking fabrics throughout, that causes enough wetness to make me cold again. Especially as sports bras don't do a great job of wicking, anyway. Because they're cotton. Don't wear a sports bra for skiing, for heaven's sake, it's not like you're jogging. Do both your hands and feet get cold easily? Have they ever turned whitish in conditions that are really too warm for frostbite? Um, my sports bras aren't cotton. They're a synth material, although the label's been washed too many times to read clearly. Seriously, what would you recommend wearing to keep your boobs from flying all over the place in painful ways while skiing? I can't imagine landing the tiniest jump without some decent support. My hands and feet do get cold easily. I don't believe they've ever turned white. In fact, according to my husband, they don't *feel* abnormally cold to him. Still, they cause me pain, enough so that I have to make hot cocoa stops when I'd rather be skiing. Any ideas? -- monique |
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"Monique Y. Mudama" wrote:
On 2004-12-07, Mary Malmros penned: Monique Y. Mudama wrote: Finally, I'm wondering if buying gloves is the answer at all, or if I need to keep my body warmer somehow so that it doesn't say "sayonara!" to my extremities. Thing is, if I dress any warmer than I do, I'll be sweating when I ski or am standing in line, and even with wicking fabrics throughout, that causes enough wetness to make me cold again. Especially as sports bras don't do a great job of wicking, anyway. Because they're cotton. Don't wear a sports bra for skiing, for heaven's sake, it's not like you're jogging. Do both your hands and feet get cold easily? Have they ever turned whitish in conditions that are really too warm for frostbite? Um, my sports bras aren't cotton. They're a synth material, although the label's been washed too many times to read clearly. Seriously, what would you recommend wearing to keep your boobs from flying all over the place in painful ways while skiing? I can't imagine landing the tiniest jump without some decent support. Duct tape? I was once told by models that they used masking tape to hang their boobs from their shoulders when appropriate, but that was before duct tape was discovered. Worse than skiing is riding on the back of a GoldWing with bad shocks. At one point I was holding my boobs in my hands to keep them from bouncing around painfully. The next day I bought a sports bra. My hands and feet do get cold easily. I don't believe they've ever turned white. That's good. When I was smoking my index fingers would shrivel and turn white and numb for perhaps half an hour if I touched something cold, but not since I stopped. In fact, according to my husband, they don't *feel* abnormally cold to him. Still, they cause me pain, enough so that I have to make hot cocoa stops when I'd rather be skiing. Any ideas? Yeah. You're doomed. My 88-YO MIL has been cold all her life (she is comfy, however, in Palm Springs at noon in the middle of summer), even when she was young, before the heart trouble kicked in. None of her stable of doctors has an explanation -- not the neurologist or the vein man or the cardiologists or the orthopedist or the GP or... What about heated boots and/or polypropylene glove/sock liners? -- Cheers, Bev ================================================== ================== "We thought of one of those discount store caskets, but, frankly, we were worried about the quality." -- mortuary commercial |
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On 2004-12-07, The Real Bev penned:
"Monique Y. Mudama" wrote: Seriously, what would you recommend wearing to keep your boobs from flying all over the place in painful ways while skiing? I can't imagine landing the tiniest jump without some decent support. Duct tape? I was once told by models that they used masking tape to hang their boobs from their shoulders when appropriate, but that was before duct tape was discovered. *shudder* Worse than skiing is riding on the back of a GoldWing with bad shocks. At one point I was holding my boobs in my hands to keep them from bouncing around painfully. The next day I bought a sports bra. Indeed. Some days, I think I need a sports bra just to jog down the stairs. Other days, I could bounce on a trampoline with no problems. Don't ask me why. I've certainly threatened to go Amazon more than once. My hands and feet do get cold easily. I don't believe they've ever turned white. That's good. When I was smoking my index fingers would shrivel and turn white and numb for perhaps half an hour if I touched something cold, but not since I stopped. Ack! That's scary. In fact, according to my husband, they don't *feel* abnormally cold to him. Still, they cause me pain, enough so that I have to make hot cocoa stops when I'd rather be skiing. Any ideas? Yeah. You're doomed. My 88-YO MIL has been cold all her life (she is comfy, however, in Palm Springs at noon in the middle of summer), even when she was young, before the heart trouble kicked in. None of her stable of doctors has an explanation -- not the neurologist or the vein man or the cardiologists or the orthopedist or the GP or... Actually, I have a pretty good idea of what will help me. During the summer, I got into a serious mountain biking regimen, as well as other activities. My metabolism revved up to the point where I, who typically wears long sleeve shirts and full-legged pyjamas to bed, under several layers of blankets, even in the summer, was wearing shorts and a tank top under a sheet and was still moaning about it being too hot. My hands, which typically are troublesome even in the office, where of course they're elevated to type all day, were also on better behavior. Granted, I didn't sleep as well then. I think I may have actually overdone the training thing, taking on too much to soon. But it was glorious not to be cold. So. It's a lot harder for me to get motivated to exercise in the winter, when it's cold out and dark by the time I get home, but I need to find a way. What about heated boots and/or polypropylene glove/sock liners? Certainly an option. Heated boots worry me because I have problems with awkwardly-shaped feet as well, and I'm concerned that heating the boots will mask potentially serious circulation problems. But I'm planning to head to Surefoot at Vail next week to see about getting some new boots, so I may just ask them to install heaters. With their prices, I'm sure I won't notice the additional cost. -- monique Longmont, CO |
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Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
On 2004-12-07, Mary Malmros penned: Monique Y. Mudama wrote: Finally, I'm wondering if buying gloves is the answer at all, or if I need to keep my body warmer somehow so that it doesn't say "sayonara!" to my extremities. Thing is, if I dress any warmer than I do, I'll be sweating when I ski or am standing in line, and even with wicking fabrics throughout, that causes enough wetness to make me cold again. Especially as sports bras don't do a great job of wicking, anyway. Because they're cotton. Don't wear a sports bra for skiing, for heaven's sake, it's not like you're jogging. Do both your hands and feet get cold easily? Have they ever turned whitish in conditions that are really too warm for frostbite? Um, my sports bras aren't cotton. They're a synth material, although the label's been washed too many times to read clearly. Seriously, what would you recommend wearing to keep your boobs from flying all over the place in painful ways while skiing? I can't imagine landing the tiniest jump without some decent support. Something decently constructed out of synth materials with NO cotton. That should be sufficient. The problem is that almost all sports bras are made with cotton, but there's one or two in the Title 9 catalog that aren't. My hands and feet do get cold easily. I don't believe they've ever turned white. In fact, according to my husband, they don't *feel* abnormally cold to him. Still, they cause me pain, enough so that I have to make hot cocoa stops when I'd rather be skiing. Any ideas? That's the kind of problem that I take to my Chinese herbalist friend, who's usually got something that helps. I actually have an herbal formula that he gave me to improve circulation, because my hands and feet tend to get cold too (although not so much while skiing, more when I'm not moving). These are the kind of health issues that a conventional Western physician doesn't typically want to tackle, so if it is something you want to resolve, a Chinese herbalist might not be a bad way to go. -- Mary Malmros Some days you're the windshield, other days you're the bug. |
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On 2004-12-07, Mary Malmros penned:
That's the kind of problem that I take to my Chinese herbalist friend, who's usually got something that helps. I actually have an herbal formula that he gave me to improve circulation, because my hands and feet tend to get cold too (although not so much while skiing, more when I'm not moving). These are the kind of health issues that a conventional Western physician doesn't typically want to tackle, so if it is something you want to resolve, a Chinese herbalist might not be a bad way to go. I could possibly do that. But as I posted earlier, I'm pretty sure I know a definite solution; it's just that, you know, it's *work*! -- monique Longmont, CO |
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Mary Malmros wrote:
Monique Y. Mudama wrote: Finally, I'm wondering if buying gloves is the answer at all, or if I need to keep my body warmer somehow so that it doesn't say "sayonara!" to my extremities. Thing is, if I dress any warmer than I do, I'll be sweating when I ski or am standing in line, and even with wicking fabrics throughout, that causes enough wetness to make me cold again. Especially as sports bras don't do a great job of wicking, anyway. Because they're cotton. Don't wear a sports bra for skiing, for heaven's sake, it's not like you're jogging. So what do you suggest? I find sportsbras more comfortable than regular bras while skiing. Unfortunatly (or fortunately?) I can't go without. Do both your hands and feet get cold easily? Have they ever turned whitish in conditions that are really too warm for frostbite? Best gloves I've ever owned. From LL Bean. They're goretex with a separate fleece inner glove. (I bought a lightweight glove liner for when fleece is not needed). Never had cold hands/fingers in them, even in below zero temps, and the goretex keeps the wind out. Before I got these, I always wore mittens because other gloves were not warm enough. I never thought I had a problem with mittens and dexterity. Of course the lock on my old ski tote was designed to be used with mittens - they don't make locks like that anymore. Janet |
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Janet wrote:
Mary Malmros wrote: Monique Y. Mudama wrote: Finally, I'm wondering if buying gloves is the answer at all, or if I need to keep my body warmer somehow so that it doesn't say "sayonara!" to my extremities. Thing is, if I dress any warmer than I do, I'll be sweating when I ski or am standing in line, and even with wicking fabrics throughout, that causes enough wetness to make me cold again. Especially as sports bras don't do a great job of wicking, anyway. Because they're cotton. Don't wear a sports bra for skiing, for heaven's sake, it's not like you're jogging. So what do you suggest? I find sportsbras more comfortable than regular bras while skiing. Unfortunatly (or fortunately?) I can't go without. There are a few non-cotton sports bras out there. Take a look at title9sports.com. They now have a category called "best wicking bras" that are non-cotton. -- Mary Malmros Some days you're the windshield, other days you're the bug. |
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On 2004-12-07, Mary Malmros penned:
There are a few non-cotton sports bras out there. Take a look at title9sports.com. They now have a category called "best wicking bras" that are non-cotton. I'm just not willing to order stuff without trying it on first. Especially bras. Some of those things are designed as torture devices, I'm sure of it! Still, there's a women-specific active clothing store on Pearl Street Mall. I guess I'll have to hie myself over there in my copious spare time. -- monique Longmont, CO |
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