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Old May 7th 07, 11:37 PM posted to rec.skiing.nordic
Randy AKA Cubby
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Dumb question: What do you guys wear for protective equipment? I'm not
sure if it's just me, or what, but I've been through like 5 different
pairs of 'roller blading' and 'roller skating' protective gear, i.e.
knee, elbow and wrist pads, and have yet to come up with something I can
live with. The wrist protectors seem to inhibit my pole work a great
deal. The knee pads are the biggest bugaboo; they seem to really dampen
my push and almost seem to change the angle of my knee a bit. I'm an
Emergency Room nurse in real life, so I WON'T go without them (having
cared for many of the local H.S. team roller ski injuries). I also wear
a generic bicycling helmet which isn't all that big a deal. Depends on
the weather, I'm either in a Swix ski pant or shorts. wit h the knee
pads, I've tried the wrap around velcro and the pull-over volleyball
type. Any suggestions?

Randy B
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Old May 8th 07, 12:05 AM posted to rec.skiing.nordic
John Forrest Tomlinson
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On Mon, 07 May 2007 18:37:33 -0500, Randy AKA Cubby
wrote:

The knee pads are the biggest bugaboo; they seem to really dampen
my push and almost seem to change the angle of my knee a bit. I'm an
Emergency Room nurse in real life, so I WON'T go without them


Then don't go.

BTW, I have to wonder what sort of protection you use when walking
down stairs, or on an icy sidewalk.
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Old May 8th 07, 04:24 AM posted to rec.skiing.nordic
Randy AKA Cubby
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Gee, thanks, that was helpful.
OF COURSE, roller skiing in shorts on pavement with no equipment
compares EXACTLY to walking on icy sidewalks and walking down
stairs.Yup, yup. Obviously you've had a few traumatic brain injuries
yourself from not wearing equipment.
I asked for advice. NOT sarcasm thanks.
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Old May 8th 07, 06:53 AM posted to rec.skiing.nordic
Jan Gerrit Klok
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"John Forrest Tomlinson" schreef in bericht
...
Then don't go.

BTW, I have to wonder what sort of protection you use when walking
down stairs, or on an icy sidewalk.
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I don't think that's very fair.
I've been a mailman on the very worst of icy roads and sidewalks, and was
able to stay upright. Rollerskis are definately a different deal altogether.
My most painful crashes the past years were in the few atempts at
rollerskiing my Aeros. What if I some day manage to get my full power into
those and make a little mistake at 20mph in full sprint, need to evade yet
another black cat crossing the road? Also, the bunnies are getting slower
here. Scooters are running them over lately.
I applaud Randy for not getting "easy" with safety. If there's a mother of
all rollerski protection sets, I'll get it. I rate rollerskiing as the most
dangerous sport in terms of chance of injury I've ever done, and that
includes car racing (no big deal what I did), skateboarding, 4-cross
mountainbike racing, XC racing and road crits.
I've at times used full Downhill protective gear before : jacket with elbow
pads, knee/shi guards, helmet. I crashed when I did not have that, of
course.
I'm getting inline skates now, those seem to be manouvrable and more
intuative. Heck with the specific training, for now.

Crash safely,

J


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Old May 8th 07, 10:16 AM posted to rec.skiing.nordic
John Forrest Tomlinson
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On Mon, 07 May 2007 23:24:32 -0500, Randy AKA Cubby
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Gee, thanks, that was helpful.
OF COURSE, roller skiing in shorts on pavement with no equipment
compares EXACTLY to walking on icy sidewalks and walking down
stairs.Yup, yup. Obviously you've had a few traumatic brain injuries
yourself from not wearing equipment.
I asked for advice. NOT sarcasm thanks.


It's not sarcasm.
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Old May 8th 07, 10:19 AM posted to rec.skiing.nordic
John Forrest Tomlinson
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On Tue, 8 May 2007 08:53:18 +0200, "Jan Gerrit Klok"
wrote:


"John Forrest Tomlinson" schreef in bericht
.. .
Then don't go.

BTW, I have to wonder what sort of protection you use when walking
down stairs, or on an icy sidewalk.
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I don't think that's very fair.
I've been a mailman on the very worst of icy roads and sidewalks, and was
able to stay upright. Rollerskis are definately a different deal altogether.
My most painful crashes the past years were in the few atempts at
rollerskiing my Aero


Then don't do it. Seriously. Don't. Work on other things to improve
your skiing. Do a lot of one-legged balance drills. Or defy the
purists and use inline skates till you can handle the roller skis.


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Old May 8th 07, 12:54 PM posted to rec.skiing.nordic
Larry
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Randy,

I'm all with you. I don't have to prove anything to anybody and just
want to enjoy myself while waiting for snow. I think I wear pretty
much all that you wear, less wrist protection when poling plus padded
shorts.

I can't imagine using the poles while wearing wrist pads - at least
not the ones that I have. I just do with gloves, and they worked just
fine for the few spills that I've had. I do wear them when I go out
without poles, and they proved useful at least once when I lost my
balance.

I got padded shorts from crashpads.com after I fell backwards early on
in my training practically standing still. They aren't too bulky,
don't constrain movements at all and don't look too bad.

Just like yourself, I'm not too happy with knee pads. They just don't
feel right.

Happy skiing,

Larry




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Old May 8th 07, 07:14 PM posted to rec.skiing.nordic
Randy Bryan
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I'm going to tell you all something about this thread.
I work as an Emergency Department RN.Over 30 years now if anyone's
counting. I also served as a medic in Vietnam. During that time, I've
had days that weren't so bad, where I felt like I made a difference.

I've also had days where I put toe tags on children.

I have seen my share of trauma, both accidental and self-inflicted.
Lives completely destroyed and ended over preventable incidents. If
there's anything anyone can do to minimize any kind of trauma, it has my
support. I've been involved or years with a program to give kids free
bicycling helmets. Yeah, maybe Mom and Dad can afford that beat up
third-hand bike but a $9.95 helmet is too much. Happens.
I think a fall at full speed roller skiing is the same impact as being
thrown from a car going 40-50 mph. If you cannot avoid that totally,
then minimize the injury by wearing the damn equipment. Look like a
geek? Try the alternative, which may be you drooling in a bed for the
rest of your life, while me and my co-workers wipe your ass and spoon
feed you.
I get really defensive and really irate when someone advocates NOT
wearing a helmet, a seat belt, a pair of pads and some clothing to
protect your sorry ass. You want to risk your own life, feel free. Just
don't try and convince anyone else to share your stupidity please.

I'd still care for you if you came into my ER.

I hope all I'd be doing is resetting a bone or stitching you up. I may
think you're a moron, but generally I won't say it. I would say
something to the effect that you had an angel of your shoulder that day
if that's all that happened to you, that you have a second chance.

But if I'm zipping your body bag, I WILL tell you out loud you're an
asshole. Sometime through tears, but I will say it.

Randy AKA Cubby wrote:
Dumb question: What do you guys wear for protective equipment? I'm not
sure if it's just me, or what, but I've been through like 5 different
pairs of 'roller blading' and 'roller skating' protective gear, i.e.
knee, elbow and wrist pads, and have yet to come up with something I can
live with. The wrist protectors seem to inhibit my pole work a great
deal. The knee pads are the biggest bugaboo; they seem to really dampen
my push and almost seem to change the angle of my knee a bit. I'm an
Emergency Room nurse in real life, so I WON'T go without them (having
cared for many of the local H.S. team roller ski injuries). I also wear
a generic bicycling helmet which isn't all that big a deal. Depends on
the weather, I'm either in a Swix ski pant or shorts. wit h the knee
pads, I've tried the wrap around velcro and the pull-over volleyball
type. Any suggestions?

Randy B

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Old May 8th 07, 07:33 PM posted to rec.skiing.nordic
John Forrest Tomlinson
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On Tue, 08 May 2007 19:14:16 GMT, Randy Bryan
wrote:

Lives completely destroyed and ended over preventable incidents. If
there's anything anyone can do to minimize any kind of trauma, it has my
support.


This is pure baloney.

If there is "anything anyone can do" is the sort of hyperbole that
might make sense in war, but not in sport. If sport is as dangerous
as you say, the best thing to do is simply not do it. That's
something we all can do.

Why don't you suggest that? Think of all the children you would save
from injury! Or death! You'd have 100% success in preventing
shattered lives!

In assessing protective equipment and protective behaviour, it's
essential to consider risk: the likelihood that a serious injury wil
occur, and the consequences of the injury.

I get really defensive and really irate when
someone advocates NOT
wearing a helmet, a seat belt, a pair
of pads and some clothing to
protect your sorry ass.


I know of someone who died falling down some stairs. It could happen
to you. I hope that you wear a helmet when walking down stairs. Think
about it. You could have a brain injury falling and end up drooling.
I assume you wear a helmet in those situations.

Because I get really ****ed when I hear of people who don't wear
protective gear when going down stairs. I can't believe how
irresponsible they are. And they set a bad example for everyone else.
It's terrible.

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Old May 8th 07, 07:52 PM posted to rec.skiing.nordic
John Forrest Tomlinson
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On Tue, 08 May 2007 19:14:16 GMT, Randy Bryan
wrote:

I think a fall at full speed roller skiing is the same impact as being
thrown from a car going 40-50 mph.

Gat a clue. First off, a helmet and elbow pads arent' going to
protect your face or you limbs in an accident at that speed, so you
may still end up drooling...

And more importantly, the most important safety device is your mind
and good judgement. Personally I dont' want to fall at all at 40mph
off of roller skis, so I simply won't go that speed on them, even if I
could. You should consider doing the same.

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