Board Question

Ive been riding for a few years now but still know nothing of board
technology because I have never kept up with it. All I know is to go down
the mountain fast and hit a few jumps here and there. Never really hit the
pipe, i mean halfpipe, just lots of hauling ass down the mountain.

Ive been riding my friends board for the past few seasons- a never summer
166.

I am thinking of buying a board but dont want to spend an arm and leg to do
it. After researcing prices, it seems that boots and bindings for a decent
board will cost you about at least $500- unless i am just looking in the
wrong place.

I am trying to figure out what would be a good board to buy.

I am about 6'2" and 165 lbs. Intermediate level.

I saw this burton twisted on craigslist for $100 obo. Its a 164. Here is a
link to it,

http://a.im.craigslist.org/z2/4r/37E...9tvzubXFxK.jpg

http://a.im.craigslist.org/g4/JD/Nrv...GPMhwzFgHj.jpg

http://a.im.craigslist.org/Nc/vU/rwb...PIXs5iV5fA.jpg


is it a good deal or what? I was recommend to this group by a friend
becuase he said you guys were really helpful and knew your sheet.

any opinions would be helpful.

I found that the twister is a 1995 board.
I think that you should go for something newer and better for your level of
riding. You should search for a freeride board that is stiff enough for
high speeds.

Howlee wrote:

I saw this burton twisted on craigslist for $100 obo. Its a 164. Here is a
link to it,
is it a good deal or what? I was recommend to this group by a friend
becuase he said you guys were really helpful and knew your sheet.

The Twisted is an asymmetrical freeride board, fairly stiff. Looks like
the one you're looking at is built for regular foot. If you're regular
foot, like to go fast and ride with forward stance angles, it's probably
a good board for you. If you're goofy, or if you ride angles under 20
degrees, I wouldn't recommend it.

Neil

Thanks for the tip.

I am a regular footer. As for angles, all I know is that my current stance-
my feet look perpendicular to my board. The front foot face forward just
bit, and the back foot, the outside edge is like at a 90degree angle with
the board. Its like my wakeboard stance, i could ride both ways, board is
positioned to ride both switch, but dont- thats how my snowboard stance is.
like a duck, but not out as far or even at all?

does that make sense? Sorry, I dont know the lingo that goes with this.


"Neil Gendzwill" wrote in message
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Howlee wrote:

I saw this burton twisted on craigslist for $100 obo. Its a 164. Here
is a
link to it,
is it a good deal or what? I was recommend to this group by a friend
becuase he said you guys were really helpful and knew your sheet.

The Twisted is an asymmetrical freeride board, fairly stiff. Looks like
the one you're looking at is built for regular foot. If you're regular
foot, like to go fast and ride with forward stance angles, it's probably
a good board for you. If you're goofy, or if you ride angles under 20
degrees, I wouldn't recommend it.

Neil

Howlee wrote:

Thanks for the tip.

I am a regular footer. As for angles, all I know is that my current stance-
my feet look perpendicular to my board. The front foot face forward just
bit, and the back foot, the outside edge is like at a 90degree angle with
the board. Its like my wakeboard stance, i could ride both ways, board is
positioned to ride both switch, but dont- thats how my snowboard stance is.
like a duck, but not out as far or even at all?

does that make sense? Sorry, I dont know the lingo that goes with this.

Yup, with a stance like that I wouldn't recommend the Twisted. When we
talk stance angles, we mean degrees from straight across. So your back
foot is at 0, and your front foot is +(whatever, something small). Most
binding plates have markings so that you can read what the stance angle
is. Asymmetrical boards are out of style now (that Twisted is at least
8 years old, maybe more) but they still work OK if your angles are in a
certain range - more than 20, less than 45, roughly.

If you never ride switch and aren't interested in riding switch, you may
find it more functional to have a more forward facing stance. You might
try just twisting your whole stance forward by 15 degrees or so for
starters. That still won't be angled enough for the Twisted, but it may
be more suited to the sort of riding you do. Or not, some people just
like the straight across stance.

If your back foot is angled back, snowboarders call that "duck stance".
A common duck stance is -5, +10 meaning back foot angled 5 degrees
back and front 10 degrees forward.

Neil

Speaking of which, what about duck stance? I'm hearing all manner of
pro & con. Would anyone recommend it for learning? I wouldn't.

The reason I ask is that I'm trying to teach my nephew to ride, but
he's fallen in w/ the turks on the hill who have insisted that "duck"
is the only way to ride. Any thoughts?

Neil Gendzwill wrote:
foot is at 0, and your front foot is +(whatever, something small).
Most
binding plates have markings so that you can read what the stance
angle
is. Asymmetrical boards are out of style now (that Twisted is at
least
8 years old, maybe more) but they still work OK if your angles are in
a
certain range - more than 20, less than 45, roughly.

I would agree. The Twisted is from 1995, so it's probably a 10 year old
board - assuming it wasn't ridden regularly... it still would star to
show signs of age after so long and snowboarding technology for most
boards have come a LONG way since then (you current board is newer,
better, and in probably better shape).

Neversummer is an excellent brand... very damp and stable - so I would
be careful on what boards to buy to replace it as you might not be
happy with the results. If anything consider buying new boots first.

I did actually get some new boots. Burton freestyles at the end of the 2003
season for $80 bucks. Made a big difference in my riding. I assume that a
better board would aslo help.

I'll be happy to take anymore advice that yall have. All of you have been
helpful so far.

thanks


"lonerider" wrote in message
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Neil Gendzwill wrote:
foot is at 0, and your front foot is +(whatever, something small).
Most
binding plates have markings so that you can read what the stance
angle
is. Asymmetrical boards are out of style now (that Twisted is at
least
8 years old, maybe more) but they still work OK if your angles are in
a
certain range - more than 20, less than 45, roughly.

I would agree. The Twisted is from 1995, so it's probably a 10 year old
board - assuming it wasn't ridden regularly... it still would star to
show signs of age after so long and snowboarding technology for most
boards have come a LONG way since then (you current board is newer,
better, and in probably better shape).

Neversummer is an excellent brand... very damp and stable - so I would
be careful on what boards to buy to replace it as you might not be
happy with the results. If anything consider buying new boots first.

wrote:
Speaking of which, what about duck stance? I'm hearing all manner of
pro & con. Would anyone recommend it for learning? I wouldn't.

The reason I ask is that I'm trying to teach my nephew to ride, but
he's fallen in w/ the turks on the hill who have insisted that "duck"
is the only way to ride. Any thoughts?

Sounds like you already know all the different viewpoints. It really
matters on what you want to do with the board. If you ride switch a
lot, a duck footed stance will give you more flexibilty - although even
the pros rarely go more than -6 in the back foot from what I've seen.
If you are a heavy racer/carver... then a higher angle (45-30) stance
might be better (although you need good boots/bindings for 35 angles).
Anyone who says otherwise is projecting their own preferences upon
others and pretending it's the law. Stay in the middle and have him
ride like 22/15.

On an alpine board I ride 55/50, on a freeride board I ride 21/9, in
the park or for all-mountain freestyle I ride 18/3 (up from 15/0,
12/-3) - somthing about have a flat back foot really lets me get the
most out of my ollies.

On 3 Feb 2005 11:46:33 -0800, wrote:

Speaking of which, what about duck stance? I'm hearing all manner of
pro & con. Would anyone recommend it for learning? I wouldn't.

If his goal is freestyle/twintip, I don't see a problem other than
bias against it on your part. :-)

Different strokes ...

-- Robert