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Suggestions for one pair of all mountain skis. HELP!
I'm taking an LOA from work to finish a
semester of college in Idaho and will be skiing virtually every day. I'm in the market for one pair of skis to get me through the winter and don't know where to begin. Last year was the first year I really got back into skiing in a number of years. I skied about thirty times and demoed every time, because I didn't want to commit to a pair of skis that I would be unhappy with. A little about my skiing: I am an expert skier who hates groomers, still likes to shred the bumps, and likes to be in powder whenever its worthwhile. As an adolescent, I skied freestyle. I am 5'11", 200lb, and 31. The favorite pair of skis I demoed last year was the Fischer Big Stix 75 at 185cm. They were fun in the trees and could still handle serious moguls. I was underwhelmed by all Salomons, but did like a pair of K2 Axis something. What models of skis would you recommend that I look into? Also, what about boots? Thanks so much for your time. Gabe Kristal |
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Suggestions for one pair of all mountain skis. HELP!
Gabriel Kristal wrote:
... I skied about thirty times [last year] and demoed every time... If you don't know by now, I can't imagine that anything I could say could possibly make any difference. //-Walt // // The Volkl Conspiracy |
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Suggestions for one pair of all mountain skis. HELP!
Walt wrote:
Gabriel Kristal wrote: ... I skied about thirty times [last year] and demoed every time... If you don't know by now, I can't imagine that anything I could say could possibly make any difference. The traditional response is to rave about whichever ski the respondant happens to own, claiming it's the best ever... don't be shy. Seriously Mr. Kristal - why hasn't 30 days of demoing different skis given you a pretty good handle on your preferences? |
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Suggestions for one pair of all mountain skis. HELP!
The UK mags are suggesting the Rossi B2s or Dynastar Intuiv 74s as being
the best all mountain skis. |
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Suggestions for one pair of all mountain skis. HELP!
"Gabriel Kristal" wrote in message I'm taking an LOA from work to finish a semester of college in Idaho and will be skiing virtually every day. Where will you be skiing virtually every day? It makes a difference. But offhand I'd say Volkl G4. I don't know about the bumps, but they'll do anything else, including carve like a knife, and go fast. They're also dependable in off piste cut up. They are twin tip so you can get all the air you want without (much) fear. They're wide underfoot so that you'll get more flotation than most other skis will give you, short of a straight out powder pounder like AK Launcher, or 4x4, or Bandit XXX. However, The powder out there can get so light that nothing will float you except a pair of those ridiculous stick 300mm waist powder skis that couldn't possibly be used to ski any other conditions. If there's thirty feet of it, and you ski into it, you're going to the bottom. Snowshoes won't even help you. Neither will Bandit, Launcher or 4x4, unless it's steep enough and you go really, really fast, two conditions I don't find myself involved in very often. As such, powder itself is an altogether different consideration. I'm still not sure it's *possible* to find a ski that can float me in the lightest of powder conditions you encounter in the continental northwest. I'm in the market for one pair of skis to get me through the winter and don't know where to begin. Last year was the first year I really got back into skiing in a number of years. I skied about thirty times and demoed every time, because I didn't want to commit to a pair of skis that I would be unhappy with. A little about my skiing: I am an expert skier who hates groomers, still likes to shred the bumps, and likes to be in powder whenever its worthwhile. As an adolescent, I skied freestyle. I am 5'11", 200lb, and 31. The favorite pair of skis I demoed last year was the Fischer Big Stix 75 at 185cm. They were fun in the trees and could still handle serious moguls. I was underwhelmed by all Salomons, but did like a pair of K2 Axis something. What models of skis would you recommend that I look into? Also, what about boots? Thanks so much for your time. Gabe Kristal |
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Suggestions for one pair of all mountain skis. HELP!
foot2foot wrote:
"Gabriel Kristal" wrote in message I'm taking an LOA from work to finish a semester of college in Idaho and will be skiing virtually every day. But offhand I'd say Volkl G4. I don't know about the bumps, but they'll do anything else, including carve like a knife, and go fast. They're also dependable in off piste cut up. The Volkl Vertigo G4 is last season's ski. It's replacement for this year is the 724 Ax4. It's not intended for groomed piste, so if you like to ski groomed at least some of the time, it's probably not the ski for you. The others in the 724 line may be a good choice. For those of you following the evolution of the Volkl line, it goes something like this: 2000 2001 2002 2003 Vertigo G20 - Vertigo G21 - Vertigo G2 - 724 Ax2 Vertigo G30 - Vertigo G31 - Vertigo G3 - 724 Ax3 \- Vertigo Motion - 724 Pro Vertigo G4 - 724 Ax4 The 2's in the series are the intermediate version. The 3's are the advanced version. The 4's are the powder skis, introduced last season. They made a G1 (beginner version) last season as well, but I don't see it this year. The powder out there can get so light that nothing will float you except a pair of those ridiculous stick 300mm waist powder skis that couldn't possibly be used to ski any other conditions. Anything with a 300mm waist is called a snowboard. -- //-Walt // // The Volkl Conspiracy |
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I believe the G40 preceded the G4. I don't know about
any G41. The G4 were just fine on the groom for me, in fact I could make them turn so sharply on groom I was getting remarks from the chair about "those monster skis" (it was a remote area as I recall, they don't get out much). It's all in hammering the hips down to the center of the turn. They do seem a bit clumsy due to the slow edge to edge, but they're serious off piste weapons. This, especially if you like to go fast on the stuff. If you hit those things on the groom, they *do* turn. I still say he should get the G4. One of these days I might get a pair. They're only getting cheaper. He wants a true "all around" ski. He surely has the skill and muscle to wheel 'em around. There is indeed such thing as a ski with perhaps half again to twice the waist of a Bandit or G4. At least there used to be. It obviously can only be effectively used in deep powder. There are times when you need it up there. If you look hard you could probably still find a pair. YTMV "Walt" wrote in message ... foot2foot wrote: "Gabriel Kristal" wrote in message I'm taking an LOA from work to finish a semester of college in Idaho and will be skiing virtually every day. But offhand I'd say Volkl G4. I don't know about the bumps, but they'll do anything else, including carve like a knife, and go fast. They're also dependable in off piste cut up. The Volkl Vertigo G4 is last season's ski. It's replacement for this year is the 724 Ax4. It's not intended for groomed piste, so if you like to ski groomed at least some of the time, it's probably not the ski for you. The others in the 724 line may be a good choice. For those of you following the evolution of the Volkl line, it goes something like this: 2000 2001 2002 2003 Vertigo G20 - Vertigo G21 - Vertigo G2 - 724 Ax2 Vertigo G30 - Vertigo G31 - Vertigo G3 - 724 Ax3 \- Vertigo Motion - 724 Pro Vertigo G4 - 724 Ax4 The 2's in the series are the intermediate version. The 3's are the advanced version. The 4's are the powder skis, introduced last season. They made a G1 (beginner version) last season as well, but I don't see it this year. The powder out there can get so light that nothing will float you except a pair of those ridiculous stick 300mm waist powder skis that couldn't possibly be used to ski any other conditions. Anything with a 300mm waist is called a snowboard. -- //-Walt // // The Volkl Conspiracy |
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"Ed Pauls" wrote in message ... foot2foot wrote:However, The powder out there can get so light that nothing will float you except a pair of those ridiculous stick 300mm waist powder skis that couldn't possibly be used to ski any other conditions. If there's thirty feet of it, and you ski into it, you're going to the bottom. Snowshoes won't even help you. Neither will Bandit, Launcher or 4x4, unless it's steep enough and you go really, really fast, two conditions I don't find myself involved in very often. As such, powder itself is an altogether different consideration. I'm still not sure it's *possible* to find a ski that can float me in the lightest of powder conditions you encounter in the continental northwest. You must be one heavy SOB! Good Ol' Ed Just pick a steeper slope. Well, all that's relative, but for example, a place called Showdown, in Montana, a weekend I believe, this place is relatively in the middle of nowhere even for Montana, and first chairs on *two to three feet of new pow* virtually everywhere on the hill (they had fallen behind with the grooming or something) were there for the casual taking. With the blow and all, the terrain park, a significant one at that, could barely be distinguished. The area had clearly been overwhelmed by this amount of snow as quickly as it fell. I'm the second one down a decently steep blue run, and I pick a line next to this big chasm in the new beautiful pow. "Lousy snowboards" I thought. But, I then leave my own chasm, as the three feet of snow is so light I am actually skiing on the pack at the bottom, blowing the pow clean out of the way. This isn't even fair eh? If I want to ski the pack I sure won't go looking so hard for powder. I was demoing Bandit XXX at 180. I'm about 180 plus. Never mind my height. You tell *me*. What ski will float me in that stuff? I saw the same conditions in the panhandle of Idaho later on in the year. Feet of fresh, but so light, snowshoes were of little use. Not the kiddie ones, the big long expedition types. I had to slug through it as though I had only shoes on. It compressed under my feet as if it were feathers. Perhaps more easily than that. Two years ago near Grand Targhee/Jackson Hole, I was skinning, stepped off a ski and sank to my hips. The more I struggled, the deeper I dug myself in. I saw the same conditions at Soldier Mountain two years ago late in the season. Spring snow that was so light it couldn't be skied. Only avoided. It only stopped you in your tracks leaving you with a nightmare of trying to get back out of it. It was slushy, wet spring snow, but it was still so light it would not float a skier. Granted, steep "enough" would have made a difference maybe, but who can ski a vertical slope? |
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Suggestions for one pair of all mountain skis. HELP!
foot2foot wrote:However, The powder out there can get so light that nothing will float you except a pair of those ridiculous stick 300mm waist powder skis that couldn't possibly be used to ski any other conditions. If there's thirty feet of it, and you ski into it, you're going to the bottom. Snowshoes won't even help you. Neither will Bandit, Launcher or 4x4, unless it's steep enough and you go really, really fast, two conditions I don't find myself involved in very often. As such, powder itself is an altogether different consideration. I'm still not sure it's *possible* to find a ski that can float me in the lightest of powder conditions you encounter in the continental northwest. You must be one heavy SOB! Good Ol' Ed Just pick a steeper slope. |
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