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Old August 18th 03, 07:03 PM
Bob Creasote
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Default Just quick, Now you know why I want to slow down

This was from a post from back in Jan, '96. Now you all know why I want to
know how to go a little slower on the downhills. Oooohh wheel melt. Nice.

cheers

Bob

From Jenex's page:

How Not To Roller Ski: On June 28th we received a phone call from Austria
reporting on a German Biathlete skiing down a 18% grade with the V2-850V
skis without having
engaged the Speed Reducers. At a speed that by onlookers was estimated to
be in excess of 70km/hr. he bent over to engage the Speed Reducers. As the
force of acceleration
was greater than the braking effect he continued to accelerate and some 100
meters later the wheels melted. Fortunately he stood up and was not hurt.
This whole thing sounds
insane. Why would anyone except a suicide candidate ski down an 18% grade?
And, how could anyone attempt this without Speed Reducers fully engaged at
the start?

We calculated that at the time he engaged the Speed Reducers the wheels
were turning at 6,000 RPM and the Speed Reducer was rotating at 18,000 RPM.
We found out this
person weighed 81 Kg.,180 lbs. Totally unbelivable, but we know it's true
because it was Ferry Grill who told us. Ferry is Gunde Svan's former
technician and our Distributor who
provided this person with the skis. All you athletes, think safety first
when training. Getting hurt could put you back months and ruin your racing
season.


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Old August 20th 03, 03:29 PM
Taywood
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Default Just quick, Now you know why I want to slow down

How Not To Roller Ski: On June 28th we received a phone call from
Austria
reporting on a German Biathlete skiing down a 18% grade with the

V2-850V
skis without having
engaged the Speed Reducers. At a speed that by onlookers was estimated

to
be in excess of 70km/hr. he bent over to engage the Speed Reducers. As

the
force of acceleration
was greater than the braking effect he continued to accelerate and

some 100
meters later the wheels melted. Fortunately he stood up and was not

hurt.
This whole thing sounds
insane. Why would anyone except a suicide candidate ski down an 18%

grade?
And, how could anyone attempt this without Speed Reducers fully

engaged at
the start?


Theres an excellent Rollerski Track at Ramsau in Austria and that is
insanely steep in places.

I bottled out of the Severe route, I'd walked to first turn at the
start of the hill, looked up and up and up and almost fell over
backwards. How could they get a tarmac road surface machine
up there? I did walk up the loop but was passed on the steep
downhill by a biathlon youngster who then skipped sideways
at speed off the road into the biathlon bay.
Whew, and these were racing rollskis with no speedreducers.

The Medium route was severe enough for me but in heavy rain
I attempted a cautious plow into the first downhill banked turn
and my wheels just slid sideways up the bank, onto the scrub.
Early bath for me that day.
Mike



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Old August 22nd 03, 05:02 PM
Nathan Schultz
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Default Just quick, Now you know why I want to slow down

This story just gives one more reason not to use speed reducers!

The rollerski loop at Ramsau has several pitches that are that steep,
although short. I, among several hundred other skiers have hurtled down
those stretches without speed reducers. I was scared, but not suicidal. It
is pretty easy to get up to 60+kph on rollerskis, though, even without
suicidal 18% stretches.

Obviously, one should use common sense, but manufacturers should not
defend shoddy products by calling people stupid. The equipment should be
able to deal with all extremes that could reasonably be encountered or they
should have a warning on them: "These wheels will melt if you attempt to use
them to slow down after you are already going too fast."

Personally, I think all rollerskis should be sold with warning labels:
"You are about to engage in a silly, dangerous pastime; be sure to have
proper insurance in place, and never go anywhere where you might be forced
to slow or stop unexpectedly."

-Nathan
http://nsavage.com


"Taywood" wrote in message
...
How Not To Roller Ski: On June 28th we received a phone call from

Austria
reporting on a German Biathlete skiing down a 18% grade with the

V2-850V
skis without having
engaged the Speed Reducers. At a speed that by onlookers was estimated

to
be in excess of 70km/hr. he bent over to engage the Speed Reducers. As

the
force of acceleration
was greater than the braking effect he continued to accelerate and

some 100
meters later the wheels melted. Fortunately he stood up and was not

hurt.
This whole thing sounds
insane. Why would anyone except a suicide candidate ski down an 18%

grade?
And, how could anyone attempt this without Speed Reducers fully

engaged at
the start?


Theres an excellent Rollerski Track at Ramsau in Austria and that is
insanely steep in places.

I bottled out of the Severe route, I'd walked to first turn at the
start of the hill, looked up and up and up and almost fell over
backwards. How could they get a tarmac road surface machine
up there? I did walk up the loop but was passed on the steep
downhill by a biathlon youngster who then skipped sideways
at speed off the road into the biathlon bay.
Whew, and these were racing rollskis with no speedreducers.

The Medium route was severe enough for me but in heavy rain
I attempted a cautious plow into the first downhill banked turn
and my wheels just slid sideways up the bank, onto the scrub.
Early bath for me that day.
Mike





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Old August 23rd 03, 11:40 AM
Bob Creasote
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Default Just quick, Now you know why I want to slow down

I'll check it out. I'm over at Dachstein next month and I'll have the
rollerskis with me. I'll ride the MTB around first. Tarmac just hurts too
much.....OK, I admit, I'm a pussy. Looking forward to getting a ski in
though! I just hope this heat goes away.



"Nathan Schultz" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:d0s1b.170539$cF.57935@rwcrnsc53...
This story just gives one more reason not to use speed reducers!

The rollerski loop at Ramsau has several pitches that are that steep,
although short. I, among several hundred other skiers have hurtled down
those stretches without speed reducers. I was scared, but not suicidal.

It
is pretty easy to get up to 60+kph on rollerskis, though, even without
suicidal 18% stretches.

Obviously, one should use common sense, but manufacturers should not
defend shoddy products by calling people stupid. The equipment should be
able to deal with all extremes that could reasonably be encountered or

they
should have a warning on them: "These wheels will melt if you attempt to

use
them to slow down after you are already going too fast."

Personally, I think all rollerskis should be sold with warning labels:
"You are about to engage in a silly, dangerous pastime; be sure to have
proper insurance in place, and never go anywhere where you might be forced
to slow or stop unexpectedly."

-Nathan
http://nsavage.com


"Taywood" wrote in message
...
How Not To Roller Ski: On June 28th we received a phone call from

Austria
reporting on a German Biathlete skiing down a 18% grade with the

V2-850V
skis without having
engaged the Speed Reducers. At a speed that by onlookers was estimated

to
be in excess of 70km/hr. he bent over to engage the Speed Reducers. As

the
force of acceleration
was greater than the braking effect he continued to accelerate and

some 100
meters later the wheels melted. Fortunately he stood up and was not

hurt.
This whole thing sounds
insane. Why would anyone except a suicide candidate ski down an 18%

grade?
And, how could anyone attempt this without Speed Reducers fully

engaged at
the start?


Theres an excellent Rollerski Track at Ramsau in Austria and that is
insanely steep in places.

I bottled out of the Severe route, I'd walked to first turn at the
start of the hill, looked up and up and up and almost fell over
backwards. How could they get a tarmac road surface machine
up there? I did walk up the loop but was passed on the steep
downhill by a biathlon youngster who then skipped sideways
at speed off the road into the biathlon bay.
Whew, and these were racing rollskis with no speedreducers.

The Medium route was severe enough for me but in heavy rain
I attempted a cautious plow into the first downhill banked turn
and my wheels just slid sideways up the bank, onto the scrub.
Early bath for me that day.
Mike







 




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