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Old March 17th 10, 03:52 PM posted to rec.skiing.nordic
Edgar[_2_]
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Default Salomon's New Classic Propulsion Binding and the Salomon SkateWedge.

On Mar 17, 8:07*am, Douglas wrote:
On Mar 17, 6:24*am, Jan Gerrit Klok Jan.Gerrit.Klok.





wrote:
You're getting old if you mistake 4 years for 1 :-)
I fail to see the relevance though.
Would you rather trust a manufacturer's story than to read a review on
a new product from an actual recreational skier? I may be a novice, but
ski skating is my life. When I'm on snow, I make up for the months I did
not live in the snow.


Also, the new ice age we're entering misrepresented as "Global Warming"
had me skiing the streets of coastal Netherlands for several days this
winter. I have done more kms on snow on a single day than I've ridden
on a bike in many years.


Actually, I think the Wedges raise the boot more at the heel than the
front, but I could be misremembring. The whole idea of the things is to
fix the "drag/hang" of the tip which many skaters experience. The higher
heels effectively have the ankle lift the tips off the snow. 4mm
difference under the foot is like 2cm for the ski tips.


I'll again stress, I could only tell a significant difference when I
consciously followed throw, pushing off with the toes. Addressing the
calf muscles normally to be left alone. I have not tried to find an
explanation for this perceived or real effect.


The wedges seems to have merit, but will not be needed for all types of
ski. Look at the position of your binding relative to the snow surface,
how high off front and rear? My Equipe10's are the most "draggy" in
that respect, compared to my other skis, looking at geometry alone.
Flex and balance will likely play a role as well.


--
Jan Gerrit Klok


Jan,
With much respect I'm not attempting to draw you into a verbal spat,
but perhaps you could be more clear on what you are describing here.
You're putting forth a lot of thoughts. For example "bumper and second
axis Pilot 2 pin". Also it's pretty clear the wedge raises the
forefoot of the boot more than the heel. Not the other way around. In
order to increase forward ankle flex the forefoot needs to be higher
not the opposite. Personnaly I would like to see Salomon make a skate
binding like the Rottefella. *In design the simplest design usually
wins out sort of like "Hakkoms Razor". Get rid of the mechanical
springs and levers on the Pilot and use a rubber flexor at the toe and
control return flexor like the Rottefella to stabilize the tip. It
really is a minimalistic design marvel. Thanks for your thoughts and
you're skiing on the Netherlands Coast because Global Warming really
exists and is re-structuring the jet stream. Happy Trails and I'm not
trying to bait you into a flame war.- Hide quoted text -

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How does the wedge raising the forefoot increase the ankle flex
angle? With a wege higher at the toe than heel I would think that the
skier would have to increase ankle flex even more to get the skier's
center of gravity forward over the toe.

Edgar
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