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Booker C. Bense
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Hal Murray wrote:

How do you manage to turn on double camber skis?

_ Sidecut, but none of the S-bound skis is anywhere near as stiff
as a double camber waxable ski. They use a negative pattern base
that does not require as much camber to still be relatively fast.

I do downhill/AT skiing as fa as I remember. 5-6 years ago I started XC
skiing. Well, ski-hiking...
This year I started telemarking. I can telemark on my old touring set
(Madshus_something 60-50-55 waxless +Salomon Country9 +SNSProfile). But
it is much easier on my new set (Karhu Vela 70-60-65 -175cm +
SalomonAdventure8 (or Adventure Raid - I've bought both of them because
of lack of the response here)+ SNS BC).
However going up and even running on the flat is awkward (comparing with
that Madshus set).

_ There is no free lunch, you have to pick where you want to
compromise performance btw kick'n'glide and making turns.

These Karhu are waxable but do have negative fishscale. I have no idea
how can I wax (I mean gripwaxes and klisters) waxable skis with a
fishscale. I suspect the pattern was made in the ski shop.

_ Highly unlikely. Those are waxless skis. If they have a pattern
cut into the base, you could just fill it in with Ptex. However,
since Ptex repairs aren't sintered they don't hold the wax as
well. Are you having problems getting enough kick out of the
skis? If you really want you can just put kick wax on a negative
pattern base, but in general it doesn't work well and is a
bear to clean afterwards. Probably the only time this really
makes any sense is in hard icy conditions where there is nothing
for the pattern to grip. (i.e. blue klister ).

_ If you need more climbing power, try kicker skins.

Should I
return these skis?


_ If you want to wax, buy waxable skis. It doesn't sound to me
like there's anything wrong with the skis you have.

_ Booker C. Bense

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