I suspect some fish stories on this thread.
Year's '97-98, I spent lots of time hanging with SierraAtTahoes ski
patrol and instructors.
EVERY oldtimer swore nothing worked short of changing every 3 hours.
Gortex, don't matter, none of that matters. Water leaks in thru the
seams, no matter what company.
Everyone miserable on 45 degree rainy days, they HAVE to be out
there, and doing it for years.
Remember, it's RAINY, not snowing.
You can dream how great your gloves are, but short of pure rubber
gloves, nothing keeps WATER out.