On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 8:17:11 AM UTC-7, pigo wrote:
On Sunday, October 25, 2015 at 11:20:06 AM UTC-6, The Real Bev wrote:

WhatEVerrrrr!

My personal experience indicates that things go better when I do the
packing; my gentlemen ended up needing rescue when they did it themselves.


I've done enough of it. I do it myself!

I used to use a big long checklist when packing for ski trips. The first item on the checklist should be "Use the checklist".