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Old October 22nd 03, 01:05 PM
Dick Gaughan
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Default RFD: create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.skiing

In on Wed, 22 Oct
2003 09:48:55 +0200, Ace wrote:

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 06:38:12 +0000 (UTC), (Brian
{Hamilton Kelly}) wrote:

In article
"Ace" writes:
It was kinda sneaky to snip all other x-posted groups from the
follow-up, though...


That is the standard practice with the uk.* hierarchy. The announcement
of the RFD is made in the moderated uk.net.news.announce newsgroup[1] and
cross-posted to uk.net.news.config AND any other relevant group(s). The
rules of the hierarchy state that all discussion is supposed to take
place in unnc, which is why Followup-To is set there.

It always used to be the case that this setting was explicitly mentioned
in the RFD; are you claiming that this was omitted?


Nope, but you must surely be aware that many netizens aren't savvy
enough to work around it. More importantly, regardless of what you
people who feel you 'own' the UK. heirarchy think, discussions about a
new uk. skiing newsgroup should, IMO, be held on the pre-existing
group you seem determined to sublimate.


The people who, as you put it, 'own' the uk.* hierarchy are the
people who care enough to take an interest. Life has a natural
division of effort, everybody gets to take part - those who bother
to turn up get to set the agenda, those who don't get to whine at
those who do.

The routine procedure for group creation in uk.* is that someone
posts an RFD. Then a handful of people who have previously taken
not a gnat's-turd worth of interest in the uk.* hierarchy pile in
to display their knowledge by declaring that those who've spent
years busting their intestines keeping the hierarchy working are
doing it all wrong, how they think it should be done, that there
is no need for the group, that it will die on its feet, that other
hierarchies already have similar groups and that this one will
mean the Death of Usenet. It then goes to a vote, the democratic
will of the community prevails, the group gets created and
develops into a thriving Usenet community, and the previously
existing groups in other hierarchies are not damaged in the
slightest. The prophets of doom are generally never seen or heard
of again anywhere within the uk.* hierarchy. Then someone else
proposes another group and the whole cycle begins again with new
participants, each of whom is convinced they invented the game and
that their arguments are entirely original and intellectually
unassailable. Those who've seen it all dozens of times before yawn
and wait for the vote.

Thank you for playing your part in maintaining this time-honoured
tradition.

Followup set to unnc

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