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There are three indicators on most bindings in general and
on Markers in particular. The one you are noting above is
the DIN indicator for the toepiece. There is a similar
indicator for the heel.


Right.

There is also an adjustment for
how much pressure the heel piece imparts to the boot sole
and so the toepiece. Part of this adjuster is usually an
indicator that tells you when the adjustment is correct
when observed WITH THE BOOT IN PLACE. For a Marker step-in
this is a large screw head near the bottom and rear of the
toepiece. This screw head needs to be flush with the housing
when forward pressure is correct. On the MRR, with its two
large springs on either side, I don't know for sure where
the adjuster is, but it's there someplace.

I cannot see anything like that. Nor in front neither in rear binding...

Like I said, it's there someplace. On the heel (rear binding).
I went looking for a picture of this binding but apparently
Marker is not bringing it into the US any more. It's not shown
on their website. Any other pictures I could find were too small.

If a DIN setting of 5.0 works with your alpine boots, it
would be OK for your AT boots. However, it may be too
light for anything except cruisers and all else being
correct, this may be the source of your troubles. Static
testing of bindings as you describe is OK to test function,
but there is no replacement for proper testing by a
mechanic with the proper equipment. There are too many
variables. For instance the length of the boot sole
is as important as skier weight and ability for release
setting. It's a function of lever arm length.

I usually set the bindings to 6/7. Sometimes more - up to 9. I know my
bindings and I know what setting should be set in which conditions.
They call it an 'experience'.
How can a machine (which never seen any slopes) test the bindings??
'There are too many variables' The machine may only check if the
bindings are compatible with the standards (DIN). Of course in a shop
they ask you about your skiing ability, weight,..., they are taking your
boots, and so on. But the result is approximate only...

Actually the results will be "average", not approximate. And
there is nothing that says you can't reset the DIN scale on
your bindings based on "experience". I do this, but I get the
binding tested every year to guarantee to me that it will work
as advertised.

I used that (and other) bindings for years. The only thing is all of
them had the standard (alpine) sole. And there was my mistake,
presumably...

In one post, you said that you had "moved the binding from
one ski to another" or something like that. In other words,
you mounted the bindings yourself. How did you set the boot
sole length for your alpine boots once you had the bindings
on the skis?

You have described the DIN indicator on the toepiece and
asked me if it's the forward pressure indicator.

Because there is no any indicators others than DIN indicator in my
bindings..

TA

Well there is, it's just that your "experience" isn't enough
to discover how your binding works. As I pointed out earlier,
my AT boots work fine with both my Marker step-ins (same toe,
different heel from yours) and my Tyrolia step ins, except
that I need to adjust forward pressure, which you might be
calling "boot sole length adjustment" because the boot soles
of each pair of boots is different.

A binding that does not have the forward pressure tight enough
will act like the DIN setting is too low. My experience for this
is helping out people on the hill who have rental equipment
which has not been adjusted correctly by the shop which
rented to them, or perhaps they have mis-adjusted the binding
itself inadvertently because the rental binding adjustment is
so easy to use. Also, I used to work in a rental shop myself.
We used a chart to set forward pressure set up for the boots
that we rented. It was shop policy to only check boot fit for
boots brought in by customers. My personal policy was to check
each and every boot for proper forward pressure. You see, the
renter could get the equipment from the shop, board the gondola
a get the top of the mountain with skis which don't fit the
boots he/she has on and have no idea how to fix the problem.