JQ wrote:

Are you two not saying the same thing? Both of you mentioned that to have
torque something must move am I correct?

No. VtSkier is saying that in order to have torque something must
move. I am saying it is incorrect.

Please, let's not get into an argument over whether we're having an
argument. We are, the point of contention is clear.

I guess the difference in your argument is what must move.

NOTHING has to move for there to be torque.

//Walt