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BrritSki wrote:

Mike Clark wrote:
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BrritSki wrote:

Mike Clark wrote:
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Pip Luscher wrote:

On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 08:53:43 +0200, BrritSki
wrote:

Wife and I both lke our Bandits which we've had for a few years now.
I think they were the ones I hired, actually. Seemd to carve well
enough and I didn't have any [ski related] problems off piste, other
than a nervous sense of "help, these aren't my usual skis!"
Two friends of mine who use B2s for their ski-touring have experienced
problems with them delaminating at the tails and letting in the water.
However despite this problem my friends do tend to rate the B2 and also
B3 quite highly.

I'd heard that they can do this when you smack them into the snow tail
first at lunchtime/coffee-stops, so we avoid doing that if poss and no
probs so far (B2s)

Yes but if you're using them as touring skis it is quite likely you'll
be taking them off for climbing some sections and you may then be using
the skis as a useful balancing aid or even belay under such
circumstances.

No doubt those considerations would override anything else. The thing
about banging them into a possibly icy snow bank is that they are
usually banged in hard, especially if the snow's hard which is when the
most damage occurs, and the fact that there is a slight up-turn on the
tails means they don't go in square to the snow which would probably do
less damage.

Yes but it's not a problem that I've seen associated with that many skis
that are popular with off-piste and ski-tourers e.g. Dynastar Legends or
Atomic R9s etc both of which I've personal experience of.


I tend to put mine into the snow gently one at a time with the edge of
the tail square to the snow now if I have to, but I prefer to lean
them up against something.

When I'm at 3500m+ staggering up the final bit of a steep slope to a col
it's not the kind of issue I'm concentrating on .....


What I do NOT do is step out of them at the restaurant/cafe and leave
them there as happens increasingly now. When my path in/out is blocked
like that I just walk over everything or ski over it....

restaurants / cafes ???? this does fit in with my concept of off-piste
ski-touring....

;-)

Mike
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